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MIGleader

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Jeff Head said:
My exact question as well? It seems to me there may well be two 051Cs, anyone got more info on this?

seeing how its chinas tradition to build ships two at a time, and they had bought two russian s-300s systems, i believe thery will build two 51cs.\
 

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MIGleader said:
seeing how its chinas tradition to build ships two at a time, and they had bought two russian s-300s systems, i believe thery will build two 51cs.\
I agree.
 

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MIGleader said:
seeing how its chinas tradition to build ships two at a time, and they had bought two russian s-300s systems, i believe thery will build two 51cs.\

114.jpg

this is suppose to be the other one underconstruction
 

MIGleader

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a variety of pics are confusing. according to your pic,homer, the 51c is only 50% complete. but another pic had shown 115 90% finished, with its number on. a later pic showed a 51c 80% finished, and was assumed to be 114, since its number was not on. but if this ship is 11, it must have been taken earlier than the other pic.
 

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I thought the two 051Cs are supposed to be 115 and 116. 115 is almost finished, but 116 is still in construction.

Alright, I just found a kanwa article on this:

汉和推算中国海军装备采购费 称116舰建造中(转)

汉和推算中国海军装备采购费 称116舰建造中



  刚刚出版的最新一期加拿大中英文汉和防务评论在专文中强调中国极大地强化了海空军的装备投资,尤其是海军得到了更多的军费。

  

  汉和认为由于在最新建造的大型水面舰上采取了诸多的进口设备,中国舰船的造价已经不便宜,而且廉价劳动力的优势可能被小批量生产的高成本所部分抵消。

  

  汉和一一推算了海军大型舰船目前的采购价格,认为在2004年,海军一共至少投入了30亿美元用于大型作战舰艇、战略核潜水舰的建造。这里还不包括采购新的JH7A和H6轰炸机。

  

  汉和声称054型护卫舰两艘海试,推定每艘采购价格3亿美元,总额6亿美元。另外两艘同型舰的先期生产已经开始。正如汉和早期发自法国国防部的消息所报道的那样,054护卫舰的动力系统采用4台S.E.M.T.PIELSTICK 16PA6 STC柴油机,这种柴油机的生产技术已经转移中华人民共和国。由于是全新设计同时配备了新一代的球状对空对海搜索雷达等装备,4艘舰的造价为3亿美元的推断是合理的。

  

  一艘“中华俄式神盾”051C 115号导弹驱逐舰下水、另外一艘116正在建造。推定每艘采购价格7.5亿美元。总额15亿美元。它们装备的RIF-M舰对空导弹的国际单价为1亿美元。由于导弹配置方式不同,单价还有可能达到1.5亿美元。

  

  两艘“中华神盾”170、171开始海试,推定每艘采购价格9亿美元,总计18亿美元。如此昂贵的原因是因为全新设计、建造,设计、研制费用必须考虑在内而且数量只有2艘,日本“金刚”级“大和神盾”导弹驱逐舰4艘的采购价格为40亿美元,数量越多便于成本分摊。

  

  海航方面,全部24架Su30MK2多用途战斗机于2004年交付,整个合同价格9亿美元。

  

  汉和还对其他舰船的成本作出了一一评估,并且以编列三年、四年生产预算的方式进行了计算。认为按照中国国防白皮书所公布的军事预算分配,海军装备的采购费只有20亿美元。


Basically, each 054 costs 300 million, each 051C costs 750 million and each 052C costs 900 million US.
 
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MIGleader

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thanks for the info.. so when does china plan toi finish 115? when does it plan to finish 116? when does it plan to build its 54as?
 

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I don't know, we are already getting whispers of pictures of 116. Although some people are claiming them to be 115 pictures.

115 should be launched already, it just needs to be fit with electronics and weapon systems now.
 

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on project 968 (aka 052B)

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