PLAN Naval Helicopter & ASW Capability II

bd popeye

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Link to old thread;...

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/naval-helicopter-thread-4516.html

I just found these photos on navy.mil;

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BRUNEI (June 19, 2013)USN Rear Adm. Raquel Bono (Medical Corps), right, does a walkthrough of a rescue helicopter stationed aboard the Chinese hospital ship Peace Ark anchored pier side at Muara Naval Base, Brunei Darussalam, during the association of southeast Asian nations humanitarian assistance, disaster relief and military medicine exercise hosted by Brunei. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Gunnery Sgt. Christine Polvorosa/Released)
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BRUNEI (June 19, 2013) A rescue helicopter, AC313, aboard the Chinese hospital ship Peace Ark anchored pier side at Muara Naval Base, Brunei Darussalam. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Gunnery Sgt. Christine Polvorosa/Released)
 
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Chinese naval vessel attends the exercise of rescue of hijacked vessel during the "Joint Sea-2013" drill at Peter the Great Bay in Russia, July 9, 2013. Chinese and Russian warships carried out a variety of exercises including joint air defense, maritime supply, joint escort and the rescue of hijacked vessels during the second day of "Joint Sea-2013" drill. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)
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Chinese naval ships and a ship-borne helicopter attend the "Joint Sea-2013" drill at Peter the Great Bay in Russia, July 9, 2013. Chinese and Russian warships carried out a variety of exercises including joint air defense, maritime supply, joint escort and the rescue of hijacked vessels during the second day of "Joint Sea-2013" drill. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)
 

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A Chinese ship-based medical helicopter takes off from the naval hospital ship Hepingfangzhou on July 1, 2013, at the port of Male, capital of Maldives.
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Local residents in a remote island of Maldives wait while a Chinese naval medical helicopter lands on a playground on July 2, 2013.
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Medical equipment is unloaded from a Chinese ship-based helicopter, which landed on a playground at a remote island in the Maldives on July 2, 2013. It is the first time that the Chinese navy's medical helicopter was involved in a medical mission outside China. The helicopter concluded the mission the same day, diagnosing and treating more than 220 patients in Maldives. The mission started on July 1.[Photo/Xinhua]
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A Chinese ship-based medical helicopter returns to the naval hospital ship Hepingfangzhou on July 1, 2013, at the port of Male, capital of Maldives.
 

Jeff Head

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I have a BUNCH of PLAN and PLA helo pictures gathered over the years. Here is one from each group I have:

The Russian built KA-27 ASW/SAR helo:




PLAN-Helos said:
A KA-27 helicopter landing on a PLAN Sovremenny Project 956E destoyer, DDG-139.
The Russian built KA-31 AEW helo:




PLAN-Helos said:
A KA-31 helicopter during a test flight
The Chinese Changhe Z-8J Transport/ASW/SAR/Medical helicopter: (Developed from the French Super Frelon)




PLAN-Helos said:
A couple of Z-8JA heavy helicopters on deck of a Type 071 Landing Platform Dock (LPD).
The Chinese Harbin Z-9C ASW/SAR helicopter: (Developed from the French Dolphin)




PLAN-Helos said:
A Z-9C helicopter performng anti-piracy duties off of a Type 054A guided-missile frigate.
The Chinese Changhe WZ-10 attack helicopter: (not used by the PLAN yet, but with the LPDs and eventual LHDs it soon could)




PLAN-Helos said:
A WZ-10 attack helicopter in flight.
 
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MwRYum

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The Chinese Changhe WZ-10 attack helicopter: (not used by the PLAN yet, but with the LPDs and eventual LHDs it soon could)



More like "they should" but a navalised WZ-10 would only be possible when the WZ-10 get better engine. Once with better engine, the negative effect of added weight due to navalising the design can be partly negated.

Most importantly, the WZ-10 introduce the concept of proper attack helicopter to the PLA, so it will be sometime before the feedback from the army aviation and most importantly, new engines will result in the "true WZ-10" that the naval aviation can finally incorporate into its forces, giving the Marines CAS support that they're sorely lacking at this time.
 

Bltizo

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They could very easily navalize the Z-19, given it shares the same rear fuselage as Z-9, which we all know has been navalized with many such variants. In fact, a naval Z-19 would give the PLAMC a decent attack helicopter more or less as capable as the AH-1 supercobra, the USMC's current mainstay attack helicopter (while Z-19 does lack a gun, both have MTOWs of 4.5 tons and Z-19 may make up for it with more advanced avionics).

There's also no reason they can't produce a navalized Z-10 -- it'll still fly even with the added weight of navalization. They can just re engine them later once WZ-16 is ready, but for the moment it'll give them a decent attack helicopter in the class of eurocopter tigre.
 

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fact, a naval Z-19 would give the PLAMC a decent attack helicopter more or less as capable as the AH-1 supercobra, the USMC's current mainstay attack helicopter (while Z-19 does lack a gun, both have MTOWs of 4.5 tons and Z-19 may make up for it with more advanced avionics).
The US Marines are replacing the AH-1W Super Cobras with the newer, rebuilt, more powerful, more capable, and more modern AH-1Z Viper.




It is similar in capability to the Apache now. If I were the PLAN, I would move directly to the WZ-10 if possible. But if not, then the other would be an effective stop-gap.
 
I really find the look of the nose radome on the Z-8 endearing. Especially with the rotor blades folded from this angle it looks like the head of a cartoon dog, like Snoopy or Pluto.
 
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