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Storm bombardier

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On June 21, around 500 kilometres from Tokyo, in the Izu Islands, at least two Chinese warships and a supply ship were found. One of these vessels seems to be the Lhasa, the second Type 055 class stealth destroyer and one of China’s most technologically sophisticated warships.

Since June 12, a number of Chinese warships have been cruising in waters close to Japan, according to the Japanese Ministry of Defense.

James Brown, an associate professor of political science at Temple University in Tokyo, claimed that “Russia and China are clearly displaying their strength” in this situation. “Japan is really worried about these operations. The Japan Self-Defense Forces’ resources would also be put under strain by having to monitor the movements of both Russian and Chinese warships.”


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ansy1968

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On June 21, around 500 kilometres from Tokyo, in the Izu Islands, at least two Chinese warships and a supply ship were found. One of these vessels seems to be the Lhasa, the second Type 055 class stealth destroyer and one of China’s most technologically sophisticated warships.

Since June 12, a number of Chinese warships have been cruising in waters close to Japan, according to the Japanese Ministry of Defense.

James Brown, an associate professor of political science at Temple University in Tokyo, claimed that “Russia and China are clearly displaying their strength” in this situation. “Japan is really worried about these operations. The Japan Self-Defense Forces’ resources would also be put under strain by having to monitor the movements of both Russian and Chinese warships.”


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@Storm bombardier They demand FON, now they got it what more do they want...lol The SCS issue is done and dusted, China had won, now the stage is being replicated in the Second Island chain using their FON policy. Like I said the Collective West didn't think this thru and is boomeranging back, what is good for the gander is good for the goose....lol

That is on the security side what about the economics? Here the Ukraine War is a blessing, its a rude awakening for all of us especially the Collective West, on the good side there is now a restraining force and a rethink about hegemonic policy, the bad it may beholden the Russian as they realized they're strong after winning this economic war. So the best way to navigate is form your owned Independent policy that Japan had regrettably realized.
 
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TK3600

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I completely disagree with your take.

They can't even fulfill their maintenance backlog with their current fleet. They have subs waiting in-line for like a couple years at yards waiting to be maintained.

Just because they were able to build 3 or 4 ships in the past doesn't mean they can build at the same capacity right now . They have newer programs coming up and those require space at the yards. Their current rate is 1.5 AB ddg every year. To ramp it up to three will require a long shutdown to upgrades their shipyards and supply chains. They've hollowed their ship-building industry with the Jones Act.
Isnt Jonea act 1920.
 

superdog

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Don't know which thread is best for this news, but I think it better posted here:



An AG600 large amphibious flying boat took her maiden flight at 10:55, May 31.

The MTOW of this large flying boat is over 60 tons. And it's designed for forest fire fighting, maritime search / rescue and other purposes.

AG600 has the abilitiy to take in 12 tons of water while taxiing on open water surface and release the water above the site of fire automatically during one operation circle.

It's also the first special aircraft of this purpose designed and manufactured in China.
Here's a rare air-to-air footage of this maiden flight:
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taxiya

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On June 21, around 500 kilometres from Tokyo, in the Izu Islands, at least two Chinese warships and a supply ship were found. One of these vessels seems to be the Lhasa, the second Type 055 class stealth destroyer and one of China’s most technologically sophisticated warships.

Since June 12, a number of Chinese warships have been cruising in waters close to Japan, according to the Japanese Ministry of Defense.

James Brown, an associate professor of political science at Temple University in Tokyo, claimed that “Russia and China are clearly displaying their strength” in this situation. “Japan is really worried about these operations. The Japan Self-Defense Forces’ resources would also be put under strain by having to monitor the movements of both Russian and Chinese warships.”


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There was the time just few years ago when China complained about US FON, many Chinese asked what would US think if PLAN sailing close to Pearl Harbour or coast of California, to which some Americans (including officials???) answered "that is fine".

I think as USA owns Japan, Japanese can not have any other feelings than being fine with PLAN sailing up to 12km near Tokyo bay. What is all the complaints when PLAN is still 500km away?

Japan should know very well that being US ally means that Japan will get beaten first when shit hit the fan. That is what an ally meant for USA.

Japan is well equipped with knowledge of Chinese culture and language, they should very well understand the saying "你做初一,别怪我做十五“ or "己所不欲勿施于人".
 
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