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ZeEa5KPul

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FWIW, I personally think that at this stage even in the most accelerated timescale, the first CVN might, might be launched before 2030, but even that is not guaranteed. Subject to revision of course as new information emerges over time.
Do you buy the theory that the PLAN is going to test nuclear propulsion in an icebreaker before it constructs the first nuclear carrier?
 

sinophilia

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FWIW, I personally think that at this stage even in the most accelerated timescale, the first CVN might, might be launched before 2030, but even that is not guaranteed. Subject to revision of course as new information emerges over time.

I'm not sure what your own expectations for the emergence of the first CVN was...


And no, 076 is very much a new concept warship so it's not something we will see very quickly, and the leaks we had last year were truly quite astonishing in terms of how much information we received given how relatively early the ship was in its development cycle. I wouldn't expect the first 076 to enter service this half of the decade.

I was optimistically hoping for it to be laid down after Type 003 launches next year, so maybe laid down 2023 or 2024. When it launches I wouldn't know, but I was hoping (not necessarily expecting) for construction to start in 2023 or 2024.

I'm ignorant about these matters as it's not my expertise and I don't have the sources you guys have either so I'm always happy to be humbled and learn something new.
 

Bltizo

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I was optimistically hoping for it to be laid down after Type 003 launches next year, so maybe laid down 2023 or 2024. When it launches I wouldn't know, but I was hoping (not necessarily expecting) for construction to start in 2023 or 2024.

I'm ignorant about these matters as it's not my expertise and I don't have the sources you guys have either so I'm always happy to be humbled and learn something new.

Sure -- so our information regarding the CVN project has been/is scant at best, but I don't think there was any ever real expectation, rumors or proper projection (both recently as well as in the more distant past) that would've seen the first CVN start construction right after the first 003 (or the first conventional CATOBAR) was launched.


I think even going as far back as the late 2000s and early 2010s, it was expected that there would likely be some time between the first conventional CATOBAR and the first nuclear CVN CATOBAR, keeping in mind this was many years before construction of 003 began and before we even knew what designation the first conventional CATOBAR would receive.
 

sinophilia

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Sure -- so our information regarding the CVN project has been/is scant at best, but I don't think there was any ever real expectation, rumors or proper projection (both recently as well as in the more distant past) that would've seen the first CVN start construction right after the first 003 (or the first conventional CATOBAR) was launched.


I think even going as far back as the late 2000s and early 2010s, it was expected that there would likely be some time between the first conventional CATOBAR and the first nuclear CVN CATOBAR, keeping in mind this was many years before construction of 003 began and before we even knew what designation the first conventional CATOBAR would receive.

Thanks.

I know this is purely guesswork at this stage, but based on your assumptions, do you think it is more likely than not that China will be constructing 2 CVNs at once at some point (perhaps in the 2030s).

I'm sure this is a big feat as the US only has the ability to build one at a time if I'm not mistaken.
 

Bltizo

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Thanks.

I know this is purely guesswork at this stage, but based on your assumptions, do you think it is more likely than not that China will be constructing 2 CVNs at once at some point (perhaps in the 2030s).

I'm sure this is a big feat as the US only has the ability to build one at a time if I'm not mistaken.

I think it's plausible in the 2030s for that to happen yes, but of course that's quite far into the future. Come 2025-2030 we'll be able to have a more definitive answer I suspect.
 

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Long range rocket that can hit moving targets at sea? :eek:
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Hendrik_2000

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Yes it is from our friend Minie But it is nothing that we already don't know but the big news is plan for Jiangnan to enlarge the shipyard and this
Two independent military sources told the South China Morning Post that the keel laying would start early this year for its fourth aircraft carrier. Work on its sister ship,
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, and both ships will be equipped with the most advanced electromagnetic catapult launchers


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China speeds up building aircraft carriers but will PLA sailors be trained for hi-tech ships in time?​

  • A floating dock and the expansion of Jiangnan Shipyard will boost China’s commercial and military shipbuilding capacity
  • The accelerated construction comes as China faces both traditional and non-traditional security challenges, says analyst

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    Published: 6:00am, 5 Jan, 2021
    Artist’s impression of the new facilities at Jiangnan Shipyard. Photo: Handout


Artist’s impression of the new facilities at Jiangnan Shipyard. Photo: Handout
A Chinese shipbuilder has stepped up construction of two new-generation aircraft carriers, while the People’s Liberation Army is accelerating its training programme to meet the needs of the hi-tech warships when they launch.
Two independent military sources told the South China Morning Post that the keel laying would start early this year for its fourth aircraft carrier. Work on its sister ship,
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, and both ships will be equipped with the most advanced electromagnetic catapult launchers
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caudaceus

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Yes it is from our friend Minie But it is nothing that we already don't know but the big news is plan for Jiangnan to enlarge the shipyard and this
Two independent military sources told the South China Morning Post that the keel laying would start early this year for its fourth aircraft carrier. Work on its sister ship,
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, and both ships will be equipped with the most advanced electromagnetic catapult launchers


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China speeds up building aircraft carriers but will PLA sailors be trained for hi-tech ships in time?​

  • A floating dock and the expansion of Jiangnan Shipyard will boost China’s commercial and military shipbuilding capacity
  • The accelerated construction comes as China faces both traditional and non-traditional security challenges, says analyst

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    Published: 6:00am, 5 Jan, 2021
    Artist’s impression of the new facilities at Jiangnan Shipyard. Photo: Handout


Artist’s impression of the new facilities at Jiangnan Shipyard. Photo: Handout
A Chinese shipbuilder has stepped up construction of two new-generation aircraft carriers, while the People’s Liberation Army is accelerating its training programme to meet the needs of the hi-tech warships when they launch.
Two independent military sources told the South China Morning Post that the keel laying would start early this year for its fourth aircraft carrier. Work on its sister ship,
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, and both ships will be equipped with the most advanced electromagnetic catapult launchers
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Will it be nuclear?
 

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