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Tam

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I was thinking of something like putting that radar on top of this ship, first as an MLU on older ships, then as part of a new block of 054A, which is still separate from 054B/057. They might also do this on the 052B and the 054 too.


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Arienai

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Anyone can translate?

054A接着造两位数,054B首舰建造会同步进行。
052系列和055继续并行建造。
071坞登和075两攻上批量,076即将建造。
003看来是受新冠疫情影响,但目前进度顺利。
004即将开工,“具有里程碑意义”。
图文自鼎盛婆3
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POP3's original words says " 054B is close to start", I don't know why the tweet rephrase that to "054B will be built simultaneously".

I understand why this could be the case, maybe they want more operational ready frigates quickly as the 054B might need more time testing after been built.

I just want to clarify for anyone that can't speak Chinese that POP3 didn't say "simultaneously", at least not in this quote.
 

Arienai

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And for the 076 he mentioned, there's something interesting for 施佬, looks like these are from a group chat he's in:

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He says 076 solves the problem that China doesn't have F35B with a unique solution, and "you will understand once you see it".

So I guess no matter how they achieve that, what we do know is that PLAN does value LHD/LHA that could transform into carriers when needed... And we won't see a STOVL jet from them anytime soon.
 

Bhurki

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And for the 076 he mentioned, there's something interesting for 施佬, looks like these are from a group chat he's in:

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He says 076 solves the problem that China doesn't have F35B with a unique solution, and "you will understand once you see it".

So I guess no matter how they achieve that, what we do know is that PLAN does value LHD/LHA that could transform into carriers when needed... And we won't see a STOVL jet from them anytime soon.
If it does fit into PLAMC doctrine(assumption based on class called 07x),
It could be an arsenal ship, projecting long range fires, to counter and thwart USN/MC amphib forces.
just saying...
 

hullopilllw

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POP3's original words says " 054B is close to start", I don't know why the tweet rephrase that to "054B will be built simultaneously".

I understand why this could be the case, maybe they want more operational ready frigates quickly as the 054B might need more time testing after been built.

I just want to clarify for anyone that can't speak Chinese that POP3 didn't say "simultaneously", at least not in this quote.
And for the 076 he mentioned, there's something interesting for 施佬, looks like these are from a group chat he's in:

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He says 076 solves the problem that China doesn't have F35B with a unique solution, and "you will understand once you see it".

So I guess no matter how they achieve that, what we do know is that PLAN does value LHD/LHA that could transform into carriers when needed... And we won't see a STOVL jet from them anytime soon.

maybe they install a fan into the runway near at take off point to push the plane upwards.
 

Bltizo

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And for the 076 he mentioned, there's something interesting for 施佬, looks like these are from a group chat he's in:

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He says 076 solves the problem that China doesn't have F35B with a unique solution, and "you will understand once you see it".

So I guess no matter how they achieve that, what we do know is that PLAN does value LHD/LHA that could transform into carriers when needed... And we won't see a STOVL jet from them anytime soon.

It's described as "you will understand once you see it".
If we assume that it's not a half-measure like VLS for "strike + air defense, and if we are all in agreement that it's not a STOVL aircraft, then I can only assume it to be some kind of fixed wing conventional take off aircraft.
For a large LHD, the space available would likely be appropriate for large UCAVs.

For a large LHD, it wouldn't be impossible to install a single EM catapult and landing gear in a workable fashion...
 

The Observer

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It's described as "you will understand once you see it".
If we assume that it's not a half-measure like VLS for "strike + air defense, and if we are all in agreement that it's not a STOVL aircraft, then I can only assume it to be some kind of fixed wing conventional take off aircraft.
For a large LHD, the space available would likely be appropriate for large UCAVs.

For a large LHD, it wouldn't be impossible to install a single EM catapult and landing gear in a workable fashion...

So you mean like a carrier-lite with catapult/s instead of an LHA with STOVL plane? Sounds interesting. Who knows, maybe we'll get some AWACS UCAV with GJ-11-like UCAV adapted to cat and traps if your interpretation of this 076 is really a thing.
 

daifo

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Why not STOBAR j-31/35? Seems like the logical compliment for the J-15 on the STOBAR carriers too.
 

Bltizo

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So you mean like a carrier-lite with catapult/s instead of an LHA with STOVL plane? Sounds interesting. Who knows, maybe we'll get some AWACS UCAV with GJ-11-like UCAV adapted to cat and traps if your interpretation of this 076 is really a thing.

I expect a flying wing UCAV to be developed for the CATOBAR carriers.
I can see the 076 using the very same aircraft.

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Why not STOBAR j-31/35? Seems like the logical compliment for the J-15 on the STOBAR carriers too.

Because to effectively operate a STOBAR fleet means you need a larger ship and you might as well just build another 002 carrier.
Moreover, the PLAN are moving away from ski jump as a launch mechanism, and they have EM cats in the pipe line. After CV-16 and CV-17 I do not expect any further STOBAR configuration carriers (or LHD/A) to be built.
 

Tam

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POP3's original words says " 054B is close to start", I don't know why the tweet rephrase that to "054B will be built simultaneously".

I understand why this could be the case, maybe they want more operational ready frigates quickly as the 054B might need more time testing after been built.

I just want to clarify for anyone that can't speak Chinese that POP3 didn't say "simultaneously", at least not in this quote.

My Mandarin isn't very good but it sound to me 054B and 076 will also quickly start soon.


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