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Mark777c

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It would be really useful now to get some sat imagery from Jiangnan, Dalian to see if there's any newer pre assembled sections being readied in the staging area...
As far as numbers from rumours and state outlets and related people are concerned, the production of surface ships is to slow down considerably if no more orders are present.
Launched/expected
Type 056 - 70/60
Type 054a - 30/30
Type 052d- 24/26
Type 055 - 06/08(12?)
Again, these numbers aren't a wall.
I think thats a very good sized force its larger then most other navies
 

ougoah

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I think thats a very good sized force its larger then most other navies
Most navies? It's easily the second largest navy. With those 052D and 055 it is nearly as big as the USN. These numbers are for near future projections and do not include carriers. If the PLAN adds 10 or 11 carriers to this list, it'll be roughly the same capability size. Pure tonnage is already over the USN if I recall correctly. Capabilities matter but PLAN isn't a slouch in any area including subs. Of course its aim isn't to match the USN but to match the combined force of the top 10 or so navies. In any large scale conflict, it'll not just be up against the Americans alone.
 

sinophilia

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Nowhere near. The PLAN's tonnage is less than half the USN's.
At this point it may be half the size. I guess if you include launched ships.

What is it 4.6 million tons vs 2.3 million? If launched ships are included I thought it was around that.

I think PLAN literally doubled it’s tonnage in less than 10 years.
 

11226p

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At this point it may be half the size. I guess if you include launched ships.

What is it 4.6 million tons vs 2.3 million? If launched ships are included I thought it was around that.

I think PLAN literally doubled it’s tonnage in less than 10 years.
Yes, going by the tonnage in my post on the last page and adding the just the following further launched ships we have

1 Type 075 LHD 30k+ tons
5 Type 055 DDG 12k tons
12 Type 052D DDG 7k tons
23 Type 056A 1.4k tons

giving 2.3 million tons upwards so good estimate! Regarding tonnage count increase in a decade I can't give a definitive figure but the closest is a tweet by
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about ships launched/comissioned from 2010-2019, surprised it wasn't on here before

Substracting decommissionings which are of lower tonnage than the replacement usually my educated guess would be an increase in commissioned size by 800k-900k tons so "just" an increase by 3/4 or so ;)
 

sinophilia

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Yes, going by the tonnage in my post on the last page and adding the just the following further launched ships we have

1 Type 075 LHD 30k+ tons
5 Type 055 DDG 12k tons
12 Type 052D DDG 7k tons
23 Type 056A 1.4k tons

giving 2.3 million tons upwards so good estimate! Regarding tonnage count increase in a decade I can't give a definitive figure but the closest is a tweet by
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about ships launched/comissioned from 2010-2019, surprised it wasn't on here before

Substracting decommissionings which are of lower tonnage than the replacement usually my educated guess would be an increase in commissioned size by 800k-900k tons so "just" an increase by 3/4 or so ;)
Very interesting. It’s very possible that China’s fleet tonnage matches the US by 2035, if you assume a slight decrease in their total tonnage. The # of battle force missiles may surpass the US even earlier.
 

Mark777c

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Yeah and if the West didn't colonized the world and steal everyone's treasures, you wouldn't be where you're at. See how that kind of logic can be turned against you?
dont get me wrong i like China i am half Chinese Lee but America and China should be freinds Nixon and Mao where good freinds and i hope trump and xi jingping are going to be to even north Korea's kim likes trump did you see trump crossing the dmz ? i cryed when i saw both korean leaders shaking hands on the border a unified Korea would have a bigger economy then Japan
 

Bltizo

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Guys. Stop.

Any further off topic posts about national development and historical antecedents will be deleted.
edit: on second thought, all prior offending posts will be deleted for their provocative nature. You all should know better.
 
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Dannhill

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Chinese armaments companies have postponed planned work in order to concentrate on controlling the risk of spreading the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), including those building the country's new aircraft carrier and fighter jets, as well as those in Wuhan, Hubei Province, the epicenter of the virus outbreak.

According to statements released by Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai, which is reportedly building China's third aircraft carrier, and Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, maker of the J-15 carrier-based fighter jet in Northeast China's Liaoning Province, in the past few days, the companies are extending the Spring Festival holiday to Sunday.

They asked employees who traveled to other cities since the virus outbreak not to return to work until further notice, or quarantine themselves at home for 14 days, the reported latent period for the virus.

This will likely result in delays in the construction of the new aircraft carrier and the fighter jets it needs, observers said, noting that China is ushering in the building of a deep blue water navy, in which powerful aircraft carriers play a crucial role.

Observers fear that in Wuhan, where the virus is believed to have originated, the impact could be even heavier.

Wuhan is home to many Chinese weapons and equipment design and manufacturing institutes, like Wuchang Shipbuilding Industry Group Co Ltd, which builds submarines, and the Naval University of Engineering, which is developing advanced naval technologies like the electromagnetic catapult, railgun, full electric propulsion, and submarine-related technologies, according to media reports.

Xu Guangyu, a senior adviser to the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association, told the Global Times Monday that while the virus will have an impact on China's weapons and equipment programs, it will be short-term, as the virus is expected to only last for a few months at worst.

Prioritizing the health and safety of people is absolutely the right course to avoid fatalities, as well as mitigate any long-term impact, Xu said.

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