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ChineseToTheBone

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So PLAN certainly will still want numbers and if somehow there's truth to the budget not being enough at around a measly 2% GDP (PRC can more than double this to reach what most military countries spend), the army can suffer because airforce, navy, and strategic improvements take priority.
Spending upwards of 2% GDP annually is really just a misconception in fact. Currently the official numbers are much closer to 1% GDP and I have no problems with believing that.
 

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Probably means CSG, as CSIC and CSSC no longer exists.

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PLANの軍艦建造計画表は、CSICが担当。
Translated from Japanese by
CSIC is in charge of the PLAN warship construction plan.
Wow this is probably classified. Chinese character is info-rich, even I can have a good guess of the second column although the text is 90% covered.

Title: 20XX year new warship UAT plan (first batch)
  • Group 1, conventional submarine x 1
  • Group 2, (?)destroyer/frigate x2
  • Group 3, landing ship x2, one is 07X, the other is probably LCAC Type 7XX?
  • Group 4, auxiliary ships x5
 
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So PLAN certainly will still want numbers and if somehow there's truth to the budget not being enough at around a measly 2% GDP (PRC can more than double this to reach what most military countries spend), the army can suffer because airforce, navy, and strategic improvements take priority. Cutting the navy budget now is exactly the opposite of what they need and probably will be doing.
Whilst the US and Russia have frequently been at 4% of GDP in terms of military spending, the vast majority of countries do not spend anywhere near this.

I agree that naval (and missile/air) spending is the priority. But I see additional carriers and carrier aircraft as being of limited benefit when compared with additional surface ships or submarines or J-20
 

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12月23日上午,海军175编队从三亚某军港解缆起航,前往亚丁湾、索马里海域执行第34批护航任务。 编队由导弹驱逐舰银川舰、导弹护卫舰运城舰以及综合补给舰微山湖舰组成,携带舰载直升机2架、特战队员数十名,任务官兵共690余人。其中运城舰、微山湖舰多次执行护航任务,银川舰是首次执行护航任务。
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On the morning of December 23, the 175th formation of the navy unwound from a military port in Sanya and set off for the 34th escort mission in the Gulf of Aden and the waters of Somalia. The formation consists of the guided missile destroyer Yinchuan, the guided missile frigate Yuncheng ship, and the integrated supply ship Weishanhu ship. It carries two carrier-based helicopters, dozens of special combatants, and a total of more than 690 officers and men. Among them, the Yuncheng ship and Weishanhu ship performed escort missions many times, and the Yinchuan ship performed escort missions for the first time.
 

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Now it works.

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12月23日上午,海军175编队从三亚某军港解缆起航,前往亚丁湾、索马里海域执行第34批护航任务。 编队由导弹驱逐舰银川舰、导弹护卫舰运城舰以及综合补给舰微山湖舰组成,携带舰载直升机2架、特战队员数十名,任务官兵共690余人。其中运城舰、微山湖舰多次执行护航任务,银川舰是首次执行护航任务。
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On the morning of December 23, the 175th formation of the navy unwound from a military port in Sanya and set off for the 34th escort mission in the Gulf of Aden and the waters of Somalia. The formation consists of the guided missile destroyer Yinchuan, the guided missile frigate Yuncheng ship, and the integrated supply ship Weishanhu ship. It carries two carrier-based helicopters, dozens of special combatants, and a total of more than 690 officers and men. Among them, the Yuncheng ship and Weishanhu ship performed escort missions many times, and the Yinchuan ship performed escort missions for the first time.
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Google image search gives some returns on that particular image to this past summer. Does that mean we're looking at an actual photo of JL-3? One would imagine if it was a French or Russian missile that there'd be more hits on google for it.

Anyway, IF we're indeed looking at jl-3 and IF this is indeed an image of JL-2,
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then i find it peculiar that the design went back to a more pointy nose.

As opposed to french m45 going from a similar pointy nose to a more blunt nose in m51. Or Poseidon to Trident nose change. Russian Bulava missile also has a similarly pointy nose.

Other details are very hard to estimate as the resolution is poor. Length to diameter ratio appears to be just a smidgeon under 6, give or take 10%. Which could be too much error in this case. 1.8m diameter would yield 10.8 m long missile. 2.1m diameter would yield 12.6 m long missile. But given the possible error margin, it might very well also be anywhere from a 10m to almost 14 m long missile.
 

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Google image search gives some returns on that particular image to this past summer. Does that mean we're looking at an actual photo of JL-3? One would imagine if it was a French or Russian missile that there'd be more hits on google for it.

Anyway, IF we're indeed looking at jl-3 and IF this is indeed an image of JL-2,
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then i find it peculiar that the design went back to a more pointy nose.

As opposed to french m45 going from a similar pointy nose to a more blunt nose in m51. Or Poseidon to Trident nose change. Russian Bulava missile also has a similarly pointy nose.

Other details are very hard to estimate as the resolution is poor. Length to diameter ratio appears to be just a smidgeon under 6, give or take 10%. Which could be too much error in this case. 1.8m diameter would yield 10.8 m long missile. 2.1m diameter would yield 12.6 m long missile. But given the possible error margin, it might very well also be anywhere from a 10m to almost 14 m long missile.
I'm sorry to ruin the party, but this is not the JL-3 but a Bulava tested from the ''Yury Dolgoruky' prj.955 Borei class SSBN in September 2016

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Allegedly the new SLBM JL-3 was tested today ...

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This photo is not conclusive.

However, multiple sources point to a high possibility of a JL-3 test in the last few days.



Marine navigation notice for restricted access in the Bohai Sea from 12/20 to 12/23 (today).

Also some strange phenomena in the sky photographed over Beijing, all from the last couple of days.





Based on these indications, I'm strongly inclined to believe that a JL-3 test did occur very recently.

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