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Taiban

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Look, if you have a way of definitively confirming it is that specific brigade, then just show it.

If it is your estimate or if it is your deduction, then just say so.
LS is the number associated with Tibet Military Region
It has three brigades on its ORBAT - 52nd and 53rd Light Combined Arms Brigades (Mountain type) and 54th Heavy Combined Arms Brigade.
Location of landslide, type of POL tankers, article all together lead to simple deduction 54th Heavy CABs
 

by78

General
Tibet Military Region's 54th Heavy Combined Arms Brigade's logistics exercise

How can you tell they are from the 54th brigade, as opposed to one of several other PLAGF units under the Tibet Military Command, such as the 52nd brigade, the 53rd brigade, the 85th artillery brigade, or the 5th transport brigade?
 

by78

General
LS is the number associated with Tibet Military Region
It has three brigades on its ORBAT - 52nd and 53rd Light Combined Arms Brigades (Mountain type) and 54th Heavy Combined Arms Brigade.
Location of landslide, type of POL tankers, article all together lead to simple deduction 54th Heavy CABs

What about the location of the landslide? Where is this landslide exactly? Point it out on a map please. And what "article" are you referring to? Could you please provide a link to the said article? How does the landslide's location and the type of tankers tell you that they belong to the 54th brigade? Do you have the vehicle lists and number plates of all the units under the Tibet Military Command to be able to conclusively identify those specific vehicles as belonging to the 54th brigade? If not, then please give us a step-by-step explanation of your
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Blitzo

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What about the location of the landslide? Where is this landslide exactly? Point it out on a map please. And how does the landslide's location and the type of tankers tell you that they belong to the 54th brigade? Do you have the vehicle lists and number plates of all the units under the Tibet Military Command to be able to conclusively identify those specific vehicles as belonging to the 54th brigade? If not, then please give us a step-by-step explanation of your
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He's given his explanation, and if you disagree with his assessment then consider an alternative explanation or simply express disagreement.

There's no need to jump down his throat over multiple successive posts.
 

Taiban

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How can you tell they are from the 54th brigade, as opposed to one of several other PLAGF units under the Tibet Military Command, such as the 52nd brigade, the 53rd brigade, the 85th artillery brigade, or the 5th transport brigade?
Since you know the orbat yourself so well, why are you testing me. I didn't talk about 5th Transport Brigade but you did. So, there is no point in further replies

I have told you already it's a deduction based on location. Also, since you know so much already you will also know that 52nd Brigade series is LS1^, 53rd LS2^ etc.

I would like to close it here and not give a current affairs test any further
 

by78

General
I have told you already it's a deduction based on location. Also, since you know so much already you will also know that 52nd Brigade series is LS1^, 53rd LS2^ etc.

1) What's your source that 52nd brigade's vehicles have license plates that start with LS1, and the 53rd's vehicles start with LS2?

2) What about the 54th brigade's license plates? What do they start with, and what's your source?

3) What about the location? You keep referring to the location, so point out on a digital map where this location is and explain why it's significant and how it helped you in reaching your conclusion.

4) What about the "type of POL tankers"? Why is the tanker type significant? How does this information help you reach your conclusion?

In other words, please walk us through your
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If you can't do that, please simply admit that you're making stuff up and refrain from insulting the collective intelligence of this forum in the future.

P.S. Contrary to your claim, the Tibet Military Command has far more than three PLAGF brigades in its ORBAT. When you got such a basic fact wrong, I wonder about the
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of your so-called deduction.
 
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Taiban

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He's given his explanation, and if you disagree with his assessment then consider an alternative explanation or simply express disagreement.

There's no need to jump down his throat over multiple successive posts.
Thanks
1) What's your source that 52nd brigade's vehicles have license plates that start with LS1, and the 53rd's vehicles start with LS2?

2) What about the 54th brigade's license plates? What do they start with, and what's your source?

3) What about the location? You keep referring to the location, so point out on a digital map where this location is and explain why it's significant and how it helped you in reaching your conclusion.

4) What about the "type of POL tankers"? Why is the tanker type significant? How does this information help you reach your conclusion?

In other words, please walk us through your
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.

If you can't do that, please simply admit that you're making stuff up and refrain from insulting the collective intelligence of this forum in the future.

P.S. Contrary to your claim, the Tibet Military Command has far more than three PLAGF brigades in its ORBAT. When you got such a basic fact wrong, I wonder about the
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of your so-called deduction.
As Blitzo, Super Moderator, has directed, I will not discuss further
However, in your words, my incorrect knowledge tells me that they are three Combined Arms Brigades in Tibet Military Region/ Command- 54th, 52nd and 53rd. I am not talking about SOF, Combat support etc which are many.
I will only please request you to list out other Combined Arms Brigades as claimed by you. I will gain some knowledge
 

by78

General
I have told you already it's a deduction based on location. Also, since you know so much already you will also know that 52nd Brigade series is LS1^, 53rd LS2^ etc.
You're simply wrong.

All Chinese vehicle license plates (both civilian and military) are governed by a unified set of regulations (7th edition) that was finalized in 2012 and promulgated in May of 2013.

In 2016, China's military regions were re-organized into five theater commands, but this did not much affect the license plate system, and existing military vehicles mostly continue to wear the same plates under the 7th edition. New military vehicles, however, appear to wear plates regulated by a limited addendum to the 7th edition that became effective in 2017 or 2018, but that's a topic for another day.

Under the 7th edition, military plates begin with two English letters, followed by five Arabic numerals. The first letter is reserved for the Military Region, the second letter is reserved for the operational type, and the first Arabic numeral is reserved for the provincial or sub-regional military command subordinated to the Military Region.

So, take the license plate
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as an example, L stands for the Langzhou Military Region, S stands for Communications and Transport vehicle, and the number 6 stands for
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, as seen
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, among other sources.

Furthermore, if a license plate starts with LS1, it belongs to the Gansu provincial command. If it starts with LS2, then it belongs to the Shaanxi Provincial Command. LS3, LS4, and LS5 are Ningxia, Qinghai, and Xinjiang Provincial Commands, respectively.

In other words, the first Arabic numeral tells us where the vehicle is registered/to which province it belongs. It has nothing to do with its military unit or to which brigade it belongs.

In fact, on
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consideration alone, it's utterly nonsensical to assert that a license plates identifies a specific military brigade. The Chinese are not that stupid.

However, in your words, my incorrect knowledge tells me that they are three Combined Arms Brigades in Tibet Military Region/ Command- 54th, 52nd and 53rd. I am not talking about SOF, Combat support etc which are many.
You said, and I quote your exact words, "It has three brigades on its ORBAT"

You didn't say there are "three Combined Arms Brigades in Tibet Military Region", you said "three brigades". Seriously, interacting with you is exacerbating because you don't seem to remember what you said hours ago, or maybe you're pretending to have a faulty memory.

Thanks

As Blitzo, Super Moderator, has directed, I will not discuss further
Since you refuse to engage in a substantive discussion or answer my valid questions, let me offer you a word of advice, if you don't know something, say you don't know. If your assertion is a speculation, then don't present it as a fact. Don't fib, don't make stuff up as you go, and don't lie. In other words, don't insult the intelligence of this forum. Our flagship military forums have a higher set of standards for information dissemination, and if you are unwilling to meet them or to defend your positions with logic and cogent arguments, then please Sinodefence isn't the place for you.
 
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Taiban

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He's given his explanation, and if you disagree with his assessment then consider an alternative explanation or simply express disagreement.

There's no need to jump down his throat over multiple successive posts.
Thanks
1) What's your source that 52nd brigade's vehicles have license plates that start with LS1, and the 53rd's vehicles start with LS2?

2) What about the 54th brigade's license plates? What do they start with, and what's your source?

3) What about the location? You keep referring to the location, so point out on a digital map where this location is and explain why it's significant and how it helped you in reaching your conclusion.

4) What about the "type of POL tankers"? Why is the tanker type significant? How does this information help you reach your conclusion?

In other words, please walk us through your
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.

If you can't do that, please simply admit that you're making stuff up and refrain from insulting the collective intelligence of this forum in the future.

P.S. Contrary to your claim, the Tibet Military Command has far more than three PLAGF brigades in its ORBAT. When you got such a basic fact wrong, I wonder about the
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of your so-called deduction.
As Blitzo, Super Moderator, has directed, I will not discuss further
However, in your words, my incorrect knowledge tells me that they are three Combined Arms Brigades in Tibet Military Region/ Command- 54th, 52nd and 53rd. I am not talking about SOF, Combat support etc.
You're simply wrong.

All Chinese vehicle license plates (both civilian and military) are governed by a unified set of regulations (7th edition) that was finalized in 2012 and promulgated in May of 2013.

In 2016, China's military regions were re-organized into five theater commands, but this did not much affect the license plate system, and existing military vehicles mostly continue to wear the same plates under the 7th edition. New military vehicles, however, appear to wear plates regulated by a limited addendum to the 7th edition that became effective in 2017 or 2018, but that's a topic for another day.

Under the 7th edition, military plates begin with two English letters, followed by five Arabic numerals. The first letter is reserved for the Military Region, the second letter is reserved for the operational type, and the first Arabic numeral is reserved for the provincial or sub-regional military command subordinated to the Military Region.

So, take the license plate
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as an example, L stands for the Langzhou Military Region, S stands for Communications and Transport vehicle, and the number 6 stands for
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, as seen
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,
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, and
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, among other sources.

Furthermore, if a license plate starts with LS1, it belongs to the Gansu provincial command. If it starts with LS2, then it belongs to the Shaanxi Provincial Command. LS3, LS4, and LS5 are Ningxia, Qinghai, and Xinjiang Provincial Commands, respectively.

In other words, the first Arabic numeral tells us where the vehicle is registered/to which province it belongs. It has nothing to do with its military unit or to which brigade it belongs.

In fact, on
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consideration alone, it's utterly nonsensical to assert that a license plates identifies a specific military brigade. The Chinese are not that stupid.


You said, and I quote your exact words, "It has three brigades on its ORBAT"

You didn't say there are "three Combined Arms Brigades in Tibet Military Region", you said "three brigades". Seriously, interacting with you is exacerbating because you don't seem to remember what you said hours ago, or maybe you're pretending to have a faulty memory.


Since you refuse to engage in a substantive discussion or answer my valid questions, let me offer you a word of advice, if you don't know something, say you don't know. If your assertion is a speculation, then don't present it as a fact. Don't fib, don't make stuff up as you go, and don't lie. In other words, don't insult the intelligence of this forum. Our flagship military forums have a higher set of standards for information dissemination, and if you are unwilling to meet them or to defend your positions with logic and cogent arguments, then please Sinodefence isn't the place for you.
L shouldn't stand for Lanzhou Military Region anymore. L stands for Army. LS for Tibet Military Region. For example,

LS37 - TMR's 355th Border Defence Brigade

 

by78

General
L shouldn't stand for Lanzhou Military Region anymore. L stands for Army. LS for Tibet Military Region. For example,

LS37 - TMR's 355th Border Defence Brigade


LS376309 is not a license plate number because it has six Arabic numerals. By law, military vehicle plates can only have five numerals. Go back an re-read my previous post and its sources instead of following some random Twitter users.
 
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