Only " Tibet Water to Xinjiang Project" can save China from severe economic&social unrest


Anlsvrthng

Captain
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I'm looking at the situation **prior** to the Libyan civil war and revolution.

No matter how you look at it, the $25+ Billion in building the the Libyan water project was a huge amount of money for Libya.

In 2010, Libya was comparable to Saudi Arabia or Norway in terms of oil revenue per person.
But 40% of the Libyan population was in poverty and angry.

If Libya had used that $25+ Billion in building an economy around industry and services, there likely would have been a large, urban educated Libyan middle-class rather than millions of farmers and workers on the poverty line.

Instead, Libya wasted that money on water for low-value agriculture.

Here is the view from 2010.
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It doesn't work like that.



Exactly how you distribute money around industry and services?
Give away free nail art vouchers ,and give away sunbeds for free?

Starting water irrigation project way better to do that , it makes stronger the industry, evenly distribute the money, increase the value of the agricultural lands around the country. That is the strategy that the EU or USA following for long time, regards of distribution of central money, and growing the economy.
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
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It doesn't work like that.



Exactly how you distribute money around industry and services?
Give away free nail art vouchers ,and give away sunbeds for free?

Starting water irrigation project way better to do that , it makes stronger the industry, evenly distribute the money, increase the value of the agricultural lands around the country. That is the strategy that the EU or USA following for long time, regards of distribution of central money, and growing the economy.


The Libyan GMR (Great Man-Made River) Water Supply Project produced 3.68 Million m3 of water per day. And let's be generous and say each Libyan uses 150litres per day. That would support a population of 24 million people, which is more than 3x the actual population.

Then what happened to the rest of the water?

It went into agriculture mainly, which is low productivity and low value.
You can't change that, no matter how much money you throw at it.

If you have money to spare, then fair enough.
But Libya did not have money to spare, as witnessed by the Arab spring revolt and revolution, which was largely due to poverty and inequality.

So that $25 billion project could easily have been 3x smaller.

In comparison, China which has a surplus of investment capital and has arguably overbuilt in advance of actual need.

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And who said anything about giving away free money?

There are all sorts of other areas you could promote.

Libya mainly exported crude oil, but given it's location, why didn't they build more refineries to export refined oil products and also petrochemicals?

For example, the 600,000 bpd mega refinery built by Reliance cost $3.4 Billion.

And what about general business and industry? What could you do with $10 Billion?
 

gelgoog

Brigadier
Registered Member
Well, having water for the population in an arid country and water to grow crops when you are under sanctions from the West seems to me like a better use of money than oil refineries.

As for Lybia, without the use of foreign mercenaries and weapons, not to mention aerial bombardment by NATO, that war against Qaddafi would have never succeeded.
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
Registered Member
Well, having water for the population in an arid country and water to grow crops when you are under sanctions from the West seems to me like a better use of money than oil refineries.

As for Lybia, without the use of foreign mercenaries and weapons, not to mention aerial bombardment by NATO, that war against Qaddafi would have never succeeded.

Uh, a new oil refinery would have provided way more jobs and more stable tax revenues to fund everything else. That would include water projects.

Food is generally not sanctioned btw.

That is why I stand by my statement that the money would have been better spent elsewhere than on the Water Project.
 

Bigboii

Junior Member
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This is actually a great idea if it's possible...

Central Asia is already fighting over depleting water resources if some magic is possible share water with tham

And make tham dependent on Tibetan water just like SA

Btw wouldn't it add stress on SA water resources as around 1 and a half people already depend on Tibetan water systems
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
It's religiously motivated genocide because it deprieves billions of Hindus of India and Nepal of water, while they let the water flowing through kyber pass get to pakistan. bad idea, will send the wrong signals.
So that's another "genocide" against India and Nepal?

It seems that China is running a lot of "genocides" in your mind hahaha
While you keep creating your own fantastical scenarios, China is keep building.

So to sum up, the only genocide happening here is you trying to genocide our collective brain cells. Please have some mercy and stop
 

tygyg1111

Junior Member
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Even if they have water problems, they cant just steal the water from others, just because they militrily annexed some mountains with river sources, look what happends in thailand and vietnam and laos. No water in the Mekong, no fish no food. Laos has trains now, but where is their water?
How do you steal something you already control?
 

zgx09t

Junior Member
Registered Member
Tidalwave, much pity to the womb that bore your lowbrow existence ; well, at least in here at some random online forum. Fun to observe how a human mind consigned to a wasted barren lonely desolation consumes itself.
 

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