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Bellum_Romanum

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Any love for the upcoming Dune movie here? I'm carefully optimistic but I don't think the current movie going climate is going to result in the studio greenlighting the second part. And without the part two, no matter how good part one might be, the whole project is going to be a partial failure.
If it makes or earned high box office receipts in China then perhaps a part 2 can happen. Plus, I am a fan of Denis Villeneuve the director of this movie. I have yet to watch any of his directed films/movies leaving disappointed or bummed out. So I am cautiously optimistic on Dune.
 

avatar1234

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If it makes or earned high box office receipts in China then perhaps a part 2 can happen. Plus, I am a fan of Denis Villeneuve the director of this movie. I have yet to watch any of his directed films/movies leaving disappointed or bummed out. So I am cautiously optimistic on Dune.
Yes it would appear that china would be make or break market for Dune. If a marvel movie like Black Widow opened with just 160 million and then plummeted 65% in its second weekend. The second week saw some 90 million more added. At the current pace, it seems the whole movie might close with some 400 million worldwide. Of course, a Marvel movie has a much greater four quadrant pull on the audience. I don't see Dune reaching even those heights. With the fourth wave of Covid approaching, I fear Dune might fare closer to how Tenet did in the cinemas. Which is perhaps more comparable. A more serious sci fi film from an acclaimed director. Tenet did quite well outside US, as Covid was between waves then. IT did 360 million worldwide.
Would 360 million be enough? That'd likely mean some 180, perhaps a bit more, going to the studio. But there's taxes to pay, so in the end it's less.
Dune budget is estimated at 165 million. But marketing and distribution of a big movie these days costs 50 to 100 million more.

I guess the streaming rights and perhaps SVOD earnings will make or break Dune.
 

AssassinsMace

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Anybody see the TV show Titans? I guess this was the show when Warner Bros. attempted a streaming channel for DC Comics related material and bombed folding over to HBO Max subscription service. Wow! There's sex, violence, blood, torture, but no nudity... yet. I heard of this but thought is was for the teen crowd. It is but I was surprised it was rated for mature audiences and not just for teenagers. There's Robin AKA Nightwing now because he and Batman had a falling out and also Robin 2.0 that Batman replaced 1.0 with and he likes killing cops. And I grew up with the Adam West Batman...
 

Strangelove

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"The Battle at Lake Changjin," a much anticipated historical film following the Chinese People's Volunteers (CPV) in a battle during the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea (1950-1953), is set to hit the big screen on August 12, the film's official Weibo account announced on Tuesday.
Collectively directed by Chen Kaige, Hark Tsui and Dante Lam, all big names in the Chinese film industry, the film features a star-studded cast led by renowned Chinese actor and film director Wu Jing and Chinese super idol Jackson Yee.

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Poster of the Chinese epic historical film "The Battle at Lake Changjin" /Official Weibo account of "The Battle at Lake Changjin"

It tells the story of CPV soldiers fighting bravely in freezing temperatures in a key campaign around Changjin Lake, also known as Chosin Reservoir, in the northern part of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in 1950. The battle was a turning point in the war, laying the foundation for the final armistice negotiations.
The abrupt fall in temperature – the lowest down to around minus 40 degrees Celsius, a record in around half a century – made the battle tougher and more brutal for Chinese troops. Struggling with rugged outfits and inadequate weapons, tens of thousands of Chinese troops were killed or wounded due to the extreme cold.
The film's producer Yu Dong said the movie is a tribute to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers who died in the war. Yu revealed it took them five years to revise and polish the script and two years to prepare for shooting the movie.
 

AssassinsMace

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As usual it's simple... Don't show your movie in China if they don't want China to have any power over Hollywood. But then that means Hollywood won't make any money. They hide that priority that makes them submit to China's demands. Of course the US lies because if China had and demands as much power as they say, they could demand a Chinese character that is not a stooge for Western values be put in every Hollywood movie. When Hollywood recognized China as an important market, they demanded the absurdity where Hollywood got to have every movie of theirs released in China without restriction and without having any Chinese included. What made them think they could make this absurd demand? As usual Americans think the Chinese will revolt against Beijing if they don't get to see their white Hollywood actors Chinese people want to worship. That was before Chinese domestic movies started making Hollywood blockbuster equivalent domestic box office at only the fraction of the average costs to make a Hollywood movie. Hollywood could not hold China hostage by threatening to deny their movies to Chinese audiences when it showed Chinese would rather see Chinese actors and not white actors. They even threatened to go to India. Like I've said before, you want to guess correctly what direction American tactics will take them, it's always the one where it perpetuates their belief in their superiority as in Chinese will revolt if they're denied being able to watch superior Hollywood movies. They think Chinese will sacrifice themselves that much for them.
 

Agnus

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I don't think understand the point of removing the ROC flag thing at all. Chinese movies show ROC flag all of the time. Most of the time in a neutral manner or positive one at times. Also, to my knowledge, John Cena wasn't pushed by the Chinese government. He was ''cancelled'' by angry Chinese nationalists on online.
 

MrCrazyBoyRavi

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"The Battle at Lake Changjin," a much anticipated historical film following the Chinese People's Volunteers (CPV) in a battle during the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea (1950-1953), is set to hit the big screen on August 12, the film's official Weibo account announced on Tuesday.
Collectively directed by Chen Kaige, Hark Tsui and Dante Lam, all big names in the Chinese film industry, the film features a star-studded cast led by renowned Chinese actor and film director Wu Jing and Chinese super idol Jackson Yee.

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Poster of the Chinese epic historical film "The Battle at Lake Changjin" /Official Weibo account of "The Battle at Lake Changjin"

It tells the story of CPV soldiers fighting bravely in freezing temperatures in a key campaign around Changjin Lake, also known as Chosin Reservoir, in the northern part of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in 1950. The battle was a turning point in the war, laying the foundation for the final armistice negotiations.
The abrupt fall in temperature – the lowest down to around minus 40 degrees Celsius, a record in around half a century – made the battle tougher and more brutal for Chinese troops. Struggling with rugged outfits and inadequate weapons, tens of thousands of Chinese troops were killed or wounded due to the extreme cold.
The film's producer Yu Dong said the movie is a tribute to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers who died in the war. Yu revealed it took them five years to revise and polish the script and two years to prepare for shooting the movie.
Trailer of this movie is so good. Seems like its the most expensive Chinese movie ever. But the lack of movie promotion in really sad. They should make a Netflix release as well later, so that Western viewers and most people around the world can witness Chinese bravery and sacrifice and also to show imperialist power have done so much damage to natives around the world.
 

solarz

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"The Battle at Lake Changjin," a much anticipated historical film following the Chinese People's Volunteers (CPV) in a battle during the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea (1950-1953), is set to hit the big screen on August 12, the film's official Weibo account announced on Tuesday.
Collectively directed by Chen Kaige, Hark Tsui and Dante Lam, all big names in the Chinese film industry, the film features a star-studded cast led by renowned Chinese actor and film director Wu Jing and Chinese super idol Jackson Yee.

a83b0f18c15048c38fe6ec29c5cde0b3.jpeg



Poster of the Chinese epic historical film "The Battle at Lake Changjin" /Official Weibo account of "The Battle at Lake Changjin"

It tells the story of CPV soldiers fighting bravely in freezing temperatures in a key campaign around Changjin Lake, also known as Chosin Reservoir, in the northern part of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in 1950. The battle was a turning point in the war, laying the foundation for the final armistice negotiations.
The abrupt fall in temperature – the lowest down to around minus 40 degrees Celsius, a record in around half a century – made the battle tougher and more brutal for Chinese troops. Struggling with rugged outfits and inadequate weapons, tens of thousands of Chinese troops were killed or wounded due to the extreme cold.
The film's producer Yu Dong said the movie is a tribute to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers who died in the war. Yu revealed it took them five years to revise and polish the script and two years to prepare for shooting the movie.

Wonder if people are going to complain about "historical inaccuracy" like with 800 and that other Korean War movie whose name escapes me at the moment.
 

Gatekeeper

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I was too young when this film came out in 1973. Boy I sure wish I was old enough.

#OnThisDayInHistory 19th Aug 1973

Bruce Lee’s final completed film, Enter the Dragon (龍爭虎鬥), premiered just weeks after the actor’s sudden & shocking death. The film was the culmination of a collective effort to elevate Lee to international fame, after he had achieved unignorable success as a Hong Kong action star. After years of turning him away, a major Hollywood studio finally realized his box office potential when Warner Bros. signed on to co-produce Enter the Dragon with Lee as its centerpiece.

The movie features Asian, White, & Black protagonists — a purposeful effort to appeal to the widest possible international audiences — & blends Far East & Blaxploitation genres. Being his breakthrough role in the U.S., Lee was under significant pressure to make this film: he was frustrated with script writers who were not keen on nuances of Chinese culture; he oversaw the fight choreography; & rewrote certain dialogue to include his own philosophies of martial arts.

Enter the Dragon went on to become one of the most successful martial arts films of all time. In 2004, it was selected for preservation in the U.S. National Film Registry by the Library of Congress for being “culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant.” Credited with breaking barriers for Asians & people of color in Hollywood, it also helped jumpstart the career of Black actor & martial artist Jim Kelly, who later starred in several martial arts-themed Blaxploitation films.

Today, Enter the Dragon’s legacy endures beyond serving as the gateway to the American martial arts genre for audiences of all backgrounds. It helped popularize martial arts within Western culture during the 1970s & ‘80s, when countless karate, judo, & kung fu studios opened for business. The 1990s video game Mortal Kombat also borrowed numerous storylines from Enter the Dragon.

Lee, meanwhile, posthumously became an international icon, & was widely considered a symbol of solidarity, particularly among Black Americans. Through this film & others, his interactions & willingness to learn from people of all backgrounds helped him become an ally & the legendary inspiration to communities around the world.

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