KJ-600 carrierborne AEWC thread

[Derpy]

I always wonder being a pilot and flying these awacs or aewc aircraft and sitting so close to an object shooting so much Electromagnetic radiation. The risk of cancer must be high for them.

There is a big difference between Ionizing and Non-Ionizing Radiation.
Ionizing can rip electrons away and therefor change DNA and cause Cancer. The frequency a radar works in can only heat up matter and the beam is directional. AWACS have been flying for half a century now and the crews and their Children are fine so there can't be any major effect.

 

[Kich]

There is a big difference between Ionizing and Non-Ionizing Radiation.
Ionizing can rip electrons away and therefor change DNA and cause Cancer. The frequency a radar works in can only heat up matter and the beam is directional. AWACS have been flying for half a century now and the crews and their Children are fine so there can't be any major effect.

I'll look more into this.

Although there are numerous reports of western fighter pilots developing testicular, skin, and prostate cancer.

 

[pevade]

I'll look more into this.

Although there are numerous reports of western fighter pilots developing testicular, skin, and prostate cancer.

Probably from the high altitudes they fly at.
The higher up in the atmo you are, the higher your radiation dose.

 

[Gloire_bb]

AWACS have been flying for half a century now and the crews and their Children are fine so there can't be any major effect.

crews of many of those aircraft are known to be not fine, they know it.

There are measures to mitigate it, but ultimately it's a nature of the job.

 

[defenceman]

crews of many of those aircraft are known to be not fine, they know it.

There are measures to mitigate it, but ultimately it's a nature of the job.

Hi
is there a possibility to use some specific G suits and anti radiation helmets
to eliminate the chance of harming the crew with these radiations somewhat
like space suits I know they are heavy and not easy to wear them but can be
somewhat lighter in weight and easy to put on
thank you

 

[SlothmanAllen]

crews of many of those aircraft are known to be not fine, they know it.

There are measures to mitigate it, but ultimately it's a nature of the job.

I believe they specifically started putting some sort of gold foil around cockpits to help reduce the risk of cancer as well.

 

[Stealthflanker]

Although there are numerous reports of western fighter pilots developing testicular, skin, and prostate cancer.

There are more things can cause cancer than "supposed" radar emmission.

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But yeah Radar emmission are non ionizing thus cannot cause cancer or cellular mutations. They can however cause heating and discomfort thus why there is that crowd control weapon that use mm wave to cause pain. But no more than that. The other "danger" however is that radar emission can cause inadvertent jamming or harmful wave to electronics Thus why EMC (Electromagnetic Compatibility) Test is a thing. For fighter aircraft and AEW, the window or possible aperture are coated with gold to reflect such wave, preventing them from entering the compartment.

There is however other purpose, as gold coating in fighter aircraft canopy also prevent hostile radar wave from getting into the cockpit, thus reducing RCS of the aircraft.

The one that could generate harmful ionizing radiation e.g Gamma or X-rays are transmitter tubes like Klystron and TWT. Thus why they are protected with lead housing and generally transmitter room are completely separate from the crew compartment.

Solid state transmitter tho as what currently used in KJ-600, may not have such problem.

 

[taxiya]

I always wonder being a pilot and flying these awacs or aewc aircraft and sitting so close to an object shooting so much Electromagnetic radiation. The risk of cancer must be high for them.

Doesn't the aluminium skin of the aircraft block most of the radiation from the antenna? Only very high frequency radio waves like UV, X and gama can penatrate the aluminium skin and cause cancer, not the radar's.

I'll look more into this.

Although there are numerous reports of western fighter pilots developing testicular, skin, and prostate cancer.

Fighter pilot sits under the canopy which always let in radiation from the sun. The higher up they go the stronger the radiation. The sun radiation is UV which causes cancer.

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says "for every 1000m increase of altitude, UV radiation increases by 12%". So at 10000m the radiation is 1.12^10 of sea level, that is 300%. I imagine that is like a north European exposed to sun in a tropical country 8 hours a day. We know for a fact that Australian whites have a higher chance of skin cancer.

 

[56860]

Doesn't the aluminium skin of the aircraft block most of the radiation from the antenna? Only very high frequency radio waves like UV, X and gama can penatrate the aluminium skin and cause cancer, not the radar's.


Fighter pilot sits under the canopy which always let in radiation from the sun. The higher up they go the stronger the radiation. The sun radiation is UV which causes cancer.

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says "for every 1000m increase of altitude, UV radiation increases by 12%". So at 10000m the radiation is 1.12^10 of sea level, that is 300%. I imagine that is like a north European exposed to sun in a tropical country 8 hours a day. We know for a fact that Australian whites have a higher chance of skin cancer.

If that's the case then the pilots should be developing melanoma.

Also even if a lot of UV is penetrating the canopy, the UV will not be able to penetrate the pilot's helmet and clothing.

 

[by78]

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