J-XY/J-35 carrier-borne fighter thread

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ougoah

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Deino said:
My reply to his hint was and what's interesting, there is also a J-20 (in red) visible and these are PLAAF pilots (?) and not from the PLAN Naval Aviation. So either it is a hint for a possible PLAAF variant as rumoured since some time, or these models are to represent F-35 against the J-20 ... or they try to fool us enthusiasts again! ;)
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Those models show twin engines. Or maybe they're training against AMCA ;)
 
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taxiya

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My guess of the photo:
PLAAF has some class room exercise of Red team against Blue team. Red naturally represent China, so the J-20. Blue is the enemy, so likely the model represents whatever it can be, F-35 or F-22. The detail doesn't matter, they are just whiteboard magnet.

I also believe that these guys are PLAAF because their shoulder patch has PLAAF's light blue under side instead of PLAN's dark blue and white strips. Here is the PLAN aviation patch.
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by78

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A research paper from Shenyang Aircraft Design Insitute on a stealth carrier-based aircraft. An English abstract is below:

A Brief Analysis on the Key Technologies of Aerodynamic Design of a Stealth Carrier-based Aircraft
Abstract: Several key technologies and engineering approaches in the aerodynamic design of a stealth carrier-based aircraft are introduced in this paper. Based on three requirments – enhanced lift at take-off and landing, refined drag reduction for supersonic flow, and the balanced design of load reduction – the concepts of extreme narrow-range aerodynamic design under multi-specialty constraints such as performance, stability, weight and stealth are laid out. Research shows that enhanced lift at take-off and landing can be achieved by flap design and optimization of three-dimensional bending of wings. The drag of the aircraft can be reduced by optimizing the cockpit shape and the compressible/expansion waves at the fuselage and the directions of the overflow suction. Moreover, the load reduction of the horizontal stabilizers can be achieved by the reverse bending design of the lower fuselage and the arresting hook hatch.
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ougoah

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by78 said:
... Continued from above

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This sort of stuff although just a publicly available paper with little specifics revealed, show all the morons out there just how much of a difference even impossible to see details are. Millimeters and the smallest details in how a surface curves separate aircraft. Meanwhile these idiots see a general shape and intakes and cry COPY!

There are worlds of difference between being able to imagine and plan for an aircraft project, develop one and actually build it. Even reverse engineering a single piece is a technical ability that is held only by a small handful of nations.

On topic, are we to assume these things are involved in changing the FC-31 into the J-XY? Some of the mods that we should expect to find on the PLANAF fighter. Or something for academic intrigue destined for future developments. Would in interesting to see if the J-XY reveal include some new surfaces and an obviously unique canopy.
 
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by78

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ougoah said:
On topic, are we to assume these things are involved in changing the FC-31 into the J-XY? Some of the mods that we should expect to find on the PLANAF fighter. Or something for academic intrigue destined for future developments. Would in interesting to see if the J-XY reveal include some new surfaces and an obviously unique canopy.
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The thread title says it all. A J-XY based on the FC-31 is probable but not certain, that's my understanding anyway. As to whether this paper has to do with that conversion or an exercise in a clean sheet design, that's anybody's guess, although some of the illustrations in the paper do match certain features of FC-31's fuselage.
 
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