J-XY - maybe J-35 - next generation carrier-borne fighter


defenceman

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Hi if possible to answer some Q by somebody with more knowledge will be appreciated
1 Is it necessary to for Chinese Navy ( now im not saying at the moment ) to have stealth for carrier operations
2 what is the first chain of island radius from the mainland & a possibility for Chinese airforce to back & forth till
the end of the chain
3 can it a be a possibility because of only 3 ACC on line Navy is not feeling much vulnerable to defend their shores
at the moment because of less ACC to petrol around the world and going much deeper outside their area so often
as my thoughts are that’s why J31 or Jxx is not coming online before overcoming its deficiencies
4 what is the possibility of detecting F35 from the mainland or the island of chains with radar detections
if it’s possible for someone to answer
thank you
 

EdgeOfEcho

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a 5th generation fighter for naval operations is needed

KJ600 is out and we now want to see J-35 V3 for navy

come on 2020 show us the goodies

it would mean 003 is a top tier carrier for truly global ambitions

that would leave only H20 for revealing

because I waiting for 3 projects, H20, J-35 Naval and KJ600

now 2 left
Wasn’t there a post some time ago from Shenyang saying a new gen (5th gen) fighter’s maiden flight is planned in 2021? Shenyang designed J-15 and FC-31, it is likely that the next carrier jet will be designed by them as well. If true, you probably need to wait another year to see it...
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Wasn’t there a post some time ago from Shenyang saying a new gen (5th gen) fighter’s maiden flight is planned in 2021? Shenyang designed J-15 and FC-31, it is likely that the next carrier jet will be designed by them as well. If true, you probably need to wait another year to see it...
It’s this post:
 

Hadoren

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Hi if possible to answer some Q by somebody with more knowledge will be appreciated
1 Is it necessary to for Chinese Navy ( now im not saying at the moment ) to have stealth for carrier operations
2 what is the first chain of island radius from the mainland & a possibility for Chinese airforce to back & forth till
the end of the chain
3 can it a be a possibility because of only 3 ACC on line Navy is not feeling much vulnerable to defend their shores
at the moment because of less ACC to petrol around the world and going much deeper outside their area so often
as my thoughts are that’s why J31 or Jxx is not coming online before overcoming its deficiencies
4 what is the possibility of detecting F35 from the mainland or the island of chains with radar detections
if it’s possible for someone to answer
thank you
1) Obviously it's necessary. If Side X has stealth and the Side Y doesn't, Side Y's carriers are going to be sunk pretty quickly.

2)
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The First Island Chain is in range of mainland aircraft.

3) I think that the J-XY has some problems or deficiencies that are slowing the progress. From my understanding, they weren't satisfied with the J-15, so there are a lot of issues that need to be worked out. The shores are vulnerable, but you need time to overcome those problems.

4) The only way to know is in a war. :) The Chinese say they can detect it with their systems, particularly the S-400. The Americans say that the F-35 is invisible.

My intuition is that the F-35 is still very difficult for the Chinese to detect.
 

Temstar

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I posted this in the FC-31 thread but it's probably more suitable here:

"Certain R&D group dedicated to development of a new fighter was able to successfully resume work safely and scientifically during the middle of the pandmic, therefore ensuring the first flight of new generation fighter will proceed as planned in 2021."

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SinoSoldier

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More rumors from 草根设计师-CAD, allegedly a well-known blogger and "insider".

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  • 鹘鹰陆基型和鹘鹰舰载型,两型是并行设计的,并不是传统意义的陆基型改舰载型,陆基型和舰载型从设计之初就考虑相互兼顾!
  • 以前缺钱,东拼西凑只造了陆基型,陆基型的完善和优化,舰载型设计也做同步调整,保证两者最大限度的标准和结构件通用率!
  • 官媒也报道了,鹘鹰舰载型也在制造中了,只用两年多点的时间,要从图纸变成实机,一架试飞,一架做静力测试,还是挺紧张的!
  • 钱给了,编号也都给了两年了,按时间推算,官媒称2021年首飞,并非是空穴来风,实机出现时看刷什么编号啦?3501?35001?
Paraphrasing:
  • The land-based and carrier-based versions are developed in parallel; neither is developed from the other. The FC-31 was designed from the onset with potential land-based and carrier-based options in mind.
  • Prior to funding, there was only enough $$$ for the land-based version. Both the land-based and carrier-based variants have been optimized so as to maximize commonality and structural similarity.
  • Official media (not sure what he's referencing) has reported that the carrier-based version is being constructed. It only took two years to go from a blueprint to a static + flying prototype, so it's still quite a squeeze.
  • The funding has been given and the official designation was set 2 years ago. Therefore, the prediction that it will fly in 2021 is not unreasonable, according to time calculations. What will be its serial number? 3501? 35001?
Corrections to my translation are always appreciated.
 

H2O

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  • Prior to funding, there was only enough $$$ for the land-based version. Both the land-based and carrier-based variants have been optimized so as to maximize commonality and structural similarity.
  • The funding has been given and the official designation was set 2 years ago. Therefore, the prediction that it will fly in 2021 is not unreasonable, according to time calculations. What will be its serial number? 3501? 35001?
So the J-35 program is jointly funded by both the PLA-AF and PLA-N?
 

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