Is the Russian Navy inept?


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Soviet Naval doctrine is called "the battle of the first salvo". They cram so many weapons on their ship so that in the first salvo, they can cripple the US navy.

Lack of training and maintenance have taken its toll of this once proud fleet.
On Paper, they are still very powerful


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Yes better not to bite the hand who feeds you so in when speaking as chinese, you should embrace the russian navy, not brash...
and Russian shipyards builds the most up to date exported warships in the whole world...

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Here's the article on crash on the Russian carrier. It appears the arresting cable broke. Accidents do happen on the USN Cv's also. but the USN has 12.

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Russian Fighter Jet Skids off Aircraft Carrier, Sinks in North Atlantic

A Russian Su-33 fighter belonging to the Northern Fleet crashed into the sea during maneuvers in the North Atlantic region on Monday. No casualties were reported, the Interfax news agency quoted a navy spokesman as saying.

“An accident occurred aboard the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov in the course of routine missions at 16:27 Moscow time on Sept. 5. The pilot ejected from the aircraft,†Captain Igor Dygalo said.

The pilot is alive and in good health, but the plane slid off the vessel’s flight deck and fell to the bottom of the sea, Dygalo said.

The brake cable tore off the deck of the aircraft carrier, and the “plane rolled several meters along the deck and fell overboard. It sank to a depth of 1,100 meters,†he added.

Five minutes later a Ka-27PS helicopter took off from the aircraft carrier’s deck and airlifted the pilot “back to the ship,†Interfax quoted the spokesman as saying.

There were no weapons or ammunition on the sunken plane, Dygalo said. The spokesman said, however, that depth charges would be used to destroy secret electronic devices that were on board the aircraft

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Putin sacks Russian Navy cheif

Heads are starting to roll...Fair or unfair..

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Russian President Vladimir Putin sacked navy chief Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov on Sunday at a time when the military is facing criticism over its handling of a mini-submarine accident last month, Reuters news agency reported.

The Kremlin said Putin had appointed Admiral Vladimir Masorin as the new navy head. Putin did not give a reason for Kuroyedov’s dismissal.

Local media had speculated that Kuroyedov could be axed after seven Russian sailors were freed last month with British help after three days trapped in an AS-28 rescue mini-submarine 600 feet down in the Pacific with dwindling air supplies. Some critics asked why the Russian navy did not have the rescue equipment to hand to match the navies of NATO countries.

Russian media said last month’s events showed the navy had failed to learn lessons after the Kursk nuclear submarine disaster five years ago when the 118-man crew died when it sank in the Barents Sea after explosions on board.

Putin, who met both men at his country house outside Moscow, told Masorin — previously chief of the main staff of the navy — that he had a lot of work ahead to build on reforms already undertaken in the navy.

“You ... face difficult tasks,†he said. “We would not be able to solve all these problems even with the state’s economic potential growing if we do not strengthen discipline and order and solve tasks of social protection of seamen.â€

Putin praised Kuroyedov’s efforts in helping with naval reform, but also noted the bad times during his time in office since 1997. “Since that time, we have not simply restored a significant part of the navy but also created a realistic programme for its development,†he said.

“At the same time, there were difficult events, tragedies. We all know about that. But I would like to underline once again that with all these problems, all these tragedies, the main thing is that the navy is undergoing a revival.â€

Admiral Eduard Baltin, told Ekho Moskvy radio that Kuroyedov’s dismissal may have been linked to ill health. “Kuroyedov is very ill. He has been lying in hospital for two months, he had a complicated operation,â Baltin told the radio station
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