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Jeff Head

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Well, with time, it will simply go away.

IMHO, it is clear that India cannot support a very large force in any way in that isolated region.

What are they down to...something like 40 soldiers now?

If China waits long enough, they will end up having to pull all of them out and then China can quickly go in there and make sure it does not happen again.

IMHO, India is setting themselves up for failure here and I simply do not see any reason for them doing so. T Here is nothing in terms of major resources or crtical defense positioning to gain with such a small contingent. it is onlyy posturing and India is on the wrong side of the curve on it

They should not do such things and risk the good will they are building in terms of military acquisitions with the US and, France and others.
 
Well, with time, it will simply go away.

IMHO, it is clear that India cannot support a very large force in any way in that isolated region.

What are they down to...something like 40 soldiers now?

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oh Jeff you perhaps missed
"Around 300-350 Indian troops, with two bulldozers, continue to maintain their “non-aggressive“ vigil at the actual face-off site in the Doklam area ...
Apart from the over 6,000 soldiers already deployed under two formations (63 and 112 Brigades) in east and northeast Sikkim, the Indian Army has also moved up another 2,500 soldiers from the 164 Brigade to Zuluk and Nathang Valley in the state as reinforcements ..." inside Yesterday at 10:02 AM
Yesterday at 11:00 PM

while China says India out of Doklam, government denies

Updated: Aug 03, 2017, 07.51 AM IST
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by the way would you reopen (LOL I know it would mean trouble)
Military situation in the sino-indian border https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/military-situation-in-the-sino-indian-border.t8064/
I found some let's say tactical stuff also for Bhutan
 

Dizasta1

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I was once upset for China's inaction on this, they were not mobilizing their military to strike nor did they do any serious effort in explain their point of view to the world. But now look like China is finally on a diplomatic push to explain their narrative.

Notice even though the West clearly favoring India, and trying to build them up into a anti-China coalition to contain China, but none of Western nation is taking India's side on this, this is simply because what India did was so ridiculous that no amount of bias will justify India's action.

Also notice that India only have 40 troops left, when they invade it was over 300, once China win this narrative war India will be even more isolated, and that gives China more options to do whatever it wants without criticism, they can strike those Indian soldiers that are still left there or just arrest them and no one will take India's side.

My final take on this is that before, China's India policy was mainly to just ignore India on purpose, keep the peace with India, but at same time India has been very provocative lately to towards China and China never took the bait. Now look like India got what it wanted, it now has China's full attention and they will regret it.

I expect China to strength its own India containment policy by getting even closer to India's neighbor like Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. And maybe secretly support separatist movements inside India. India will wish they never done this.

In terms of western policy, I suggest you read articles by Zbigniew Brzezinski. It would truly open your eyes on what the real foreign policy of the West is, vis-a-vis Hindustan, China and Russia.
 

sanblvd

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In terms of western policy, I suggest you read articles by Zbigniew Brzezinski. It would truly open your eyes on what the real foreign policy of the West is, vis-a-vis Hindustan, China and Russia.

I have read his Strategic Vision book many years ago, what article are you referring to, give me some links.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Well India is now in a bind What are they going to do?. They think they can get by by forcing the Chinese for compromise(mutual withdrawal and declare victory for standing up to China) like any other border dispute. But China doesn't want to play the game
I don't think China will allow the dispute to drag on for a long time Not this time Here what one analyst think I believe he is close
What China did is piling up the pressure and let the world know what India did . For me it is laying the ground work for eventual eviction of Indian personnel. Patient is running out
I think this dangerous adventure is distraction to rally the troop after dismal performance of Modi gov in economy sphere

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China will not allow the military standoff between China and India in Doklam to last for too long, and there may be a small-scale military operation to expel Indian troops within two weeks, Chinese experts said after six ministries and institutions made remarks on the incident within the past 24 hours.

From Thursday to Friday, two ministries and four institutions, including the Chinese foreign ministry, the defense ministry, the Chinese Embassy in India and the People's Daily, released statements or commentary on the military standoff between China and India in Doklam, Tibet Autonomous Region. The standoff has lasted for almost two months now, and there is still no end in sight.

China urged India to immediately pull back the trespassing troops to the Indian side of the boundary and called on them to swiftly address the situation in a proper manner to restore peace and tranquility in the border region, Ren Guoqiang, a spokesperson for the defense ministry said in a statement posted on its website late Thursday night.

"The series of remarks from the Chinese side within a 24-hour period sends a signal to India that there is no way China will tolerate the Indian troops' incursion into Chinese territory for too long. If India refuses to withdraw, China may conduct a small-scale military operation within two weeks," said Hu Zhiyong, a research fellow at the Institute of International Relations of the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences.

Hu said that the military operation would aim to seize Indian personnel illegally lingering in Chinese territory or to expel them. "The Chinese side will inform the Indian Foreign Ministry before its operation," Hu said.

China Central Television reported Friday that the Tibet military region conducted live fire exercises in recent days in Tibet. "The exercise began at 4 am. A group swiftly took ground and loaded ammunition. The firing began just after dawn … the army used different ways to attack the same target," CCTV reported.

"The exercises are a sign that China could use military means to end the standoff and the chances of doing so are increasing as the Indian side is still saying one thing and doing another," Zhao Gancheng, director of the Center for Asia-Pacific Studies at the Shanghai Institute for International Studies, told the Global Times.

Indian External Affairs minister Sushma Swaraj said Thursday that war was not a solution and wisdom is to resolve issues diplomatically, but she also noted that "military readiness is always there as the military is meant to fight wars," the Indian Express reported.

The patience of China and its public is wearing thin, Zhao said, and China does not want the dispute to impact the upcoming BRICS summit, which India will attend. The summit is to be held in September in Xiamen, East China's Fujian Province.
 
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