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Bellum_Romanum

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Basically Brahmans consider themselves to be Pure Aryans and White people to be that Aryan Branch that migrated Northwards towards Europe and lost their culture along the way. So while today the skin color difference is apparent , mythologically they consider them to be their own .
So if there is any White guy here i can tell you you will be treated very well in India as you'll be seen as the purest and civilised (although that wont prevent you from getting scammed).
Is that why they welcomed the British with little to no resistance when India was collected altogether into a single unified state....interesting
 

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Fri, November 19, 2021, 2:48 AM


<p>A view of heavy smog during the cold winter morning In Ajmer, Rajasthan, India On November 17, 2021. The pollution levels recorded in several cities of Rajasthan this year on Diwali was the highest in the last three years. The pollution levels in Jaipur and Jodhpur were recorded three times higher than normal. Ajmer recorded twice the pollution than normal days. As per the Health Department of Rajasthan, people suffering from asthma, respiratory diseases, and post covid symptoms are advised to take extreme precautions till the pollution level comes back to normal. The level of pollution this year has reached the highest mark as compared to the last two years. Photo by Himanshu Sharma/ABACAPRESS.COM</p>

<p>NEW DELHI, INDIA NOVEMBR 17: Farmers burn dry leaves, grass and tree branches near Mayur Vihar, on November 17, 2021 in New Delhi, India. (Photo by Mohd Zakir/Hindustan Times via Getty Images)</p>


Delhi grappling with heavy smog​

A view of heavy smog during the cold winter morning In Ajmer, Rajasthan, India On November 17, 2021. The pollution levels recorded in several cities of Rajasthan this year on Diwali was the highest in the last three years. The pollution levels in Jaipur and Jodhpur were recorded three times higher than normal. Ajmer recorded twice the pollution than normal days. As per the Health Department of Rajasthan, people suffering from asthma, respiratory diseases, and post covid symptoms are advised to take extreme precautions till the pollution level comes back to normal. The level of pollution this year has reached the highest mark as compared to the last two years. Photo by Himanshu Sharma/ABACAPRESS.COM

For the Indian capital of Delhi, it's that smoggy time of the year again.

Air pollution levels have soared and thick, heavy, grey smog has enveloped the entire city once again.

Indian authorities were forced to close schools indefinitely on Wednesday, after reports of a sharp increase in the number of children with breathing problems.

The city's air quality index has fallen into the "very poor" category, prompting the Indian Supreme Court to call for a city-wide lockdown and a halt to all non-essential travel by road.

The New Delhi government officials said they're "open to the idea" of instituting a lockdown but they believe it will have "limited impact" unless neighbouring states join in.

Delhi is grappling with pollution levels 20 times higher than the levels deemed healthy by the World Health Organization.

Delhi residents are reporting respiratory difficulties, problems with vision, nausea and lethargy from breathing in the toxic air. Hospitals have also confirmed that there's an increase in admissions related to cardiac and respiratory issues.

To make matters worse, toxic chemicals from industries and factories have heavily polluted India's sacred Yamuna River. A stretch of the river has been blanketed in thick white snow-like foam.

Despite signficant health risks, devotees immersed themselves in the river to take a holy dip and pray during the Hindu festival of Chhath Puja.

“Delhi is full of pollution but still people’s lives are going on. Like that, we will also do our prayers,” Rajendra Mahto, a devotee who was celebrating the festival in the river told the
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FairAndUnbiased

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Well perhaps you are right. What I actually meant was Brazil is the best case scenario for India in the next decades going forward. Assuming they get extremely lucky, and they suddenly change their leaders for better ones. India today cannot be compared to Brazil, the gap is immense.

But if India doesn't change its course, and continues ahead with their Hindutva clowns. I cannot imagine what the next decades will look like. They could well possibly slide into banana republic territory.
Brazil GDP per Capita: 8000
India GDP per Capita: 1800 (1/4 Brazil)
Afghanistan GDP per Capita: 600 (1/3 India)
 

Xsizor

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Bloomberg Quicktake asks: Is India The Next China?

Their answer:
1) India has the demographic advantage vs China for the next 30 years = Yes
2) China and the US have problems. India can take advantage = Yes
3) Indian govt has too many red tapes. = No
4) Indian govt is too protectionist of the Indian businesses. 'Make in India' has actually become 'Make for India' = No
5) India's women participation in the workforce is poor. Plus, its actually declining. = No
6) China has already moved into automation = No
7) China is both known for Manufacturing no.1 and Public Enemy no. 1. Nope, India doesn't want that. So... = No

So that's 5 No - 2 Yes = 3 No = NO!

So, even Bloomberg has already lost belief that India is the next China. It can be summed up in a statement on the 19:10 mark. It goes abit like this: "India's economy has always been considered the next China. But every time this conversation comes up, India is still the next China." I agree, India will always be in perpetual cycle, trying to play catch up with China. But never to actually catch up with China.

With the way India is being governed now, I predict that India is going to become the next Brazil at best. Impressive, but still nothing compared to China. That's the best case scenario. I can't imagine what the worse case scenario will look like.
What Bloomberg is doing, true to its pro capitalism agenda, is trying to convince the audience that Indian government has not embraced capitalism and free market as much as western/ foreign companies want. They want India to optimize itself to be capitalism and investment friendly ( that is, forget environmental concerns, workers rights, regulations, unionism, taxation, oversight, public interest etc).

Also, that Indian dotard who said China is "public enemy no 1" should show the numbers. Has he asked most (if not all) the people in the world about their view of China? India is surrounded by countries that increasingly doesn't like India.
 

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What Bloomberg is doing, true to its pro capitalism agenda, is trying to convince the audience that Indian government has not embraced capitalism and free market as much as western/ foreign companies want. They want India to optimize itself to be capitalism and investment friendly ( that is, forget environmental concerns, workers rights, regulations, unionism, taxation, oversight, public interest etc).

Also, that Indian dotard who said China is "public enemy no 1" should show the numbers. Has he asked most (if not all) the people in the world about their view of China? India is surrounded by countries that increasingly doesn't like India.
It is true that the West wants India to be opened not just for investments, but also for exploitation. But there is also one more message from the West to India in this Bloomberg video: Don't become the next China. We mean it literally. What does this actually mean for India? Its this:
1) Don't learn technologies from the West and start competing with them.
2) Stay a poor and dependent country. India must become the source of cheap, exploitable labour for the West, perpetually. India must be exploited by the big Western corporations, in perpetuity. India's environment must be exploited by West.
3) Be a good dog to the West. Don't bother about national interests.
4) China is not a good example for India. Don't follow them. Also, don't be friends with them.

India today is moving mostly in the direction that the West wants them to. But not 100% yet, their Atmanirbhar Bharat campaign is a serious roadblock. So India is neither here nor there. Its in no man's land. Alienating China more and more, who could truly help it grow (there is SK and Japan, but even they are helpless to help with India's growth ambitions). The West still cannot fully trust them because they are still too independent for their liking.

So India cannot get the best of both the East and West. India don't have the resources yet to rise on its own. Hence, there will be no economic miracle for India. It'll be more of just the same for decades to come.
 

ansy1968

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It is true that the West wants India to be opened not just for investments, but also for exploitation. But there is also one more message from the West to India in this Bloomberg video: Don't become the next China. We mean it literally. What does this actually mean for India? Its this:
1) Don't learn technologies from the West and start competing with them.
2) Stay a poor and dependent country. India must become the source of cheap, exploitable labour for the West, perpetually. India must be exploited by the big Western corporations, in perpetuity. India's environment must be exploited by West.
3) Be a good dog to the West. Don't bother about national interests.
4) China is not a good example for India. Don't follow them. Also, don't be friends with them.

India today is moving mostly in the direction that the West wants them to. But not 100% yet, their Atmanirbhar Bharat campaign is a serious roadblock. So India is neither here nor there. Its in no man's land. Alienating China more and more, who could truly help it grow (there is SK and Japan, but even they are helpless to help with India's growth ambitions). The West still cannot fully trust them because they are still too independent for their liking.

So India cannot get the best of both the East and West. India don't have the resources yet to rise on its own. Hence, there will be no economic miracle for India. It'll be more of just the same for decades to come.
@Sardaukar20 and that my friend is why India is poor and will remain poor, Indecisiveness kills. Half hearted effort produce failure.
 

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