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donjasjit

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El Dorado which has a caste system and is deliberately racist against their ethnic minority population and can be arrested if you don't stand for the national anthem in when watching a movie?

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Or killed for a relationship between Hindu and Muslims

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What kind of a hell hole is this El Dorado? Lol there is not free press in India, it's an echo chamber. The sooner you realize the more knowledgeable you will be
India has a long way to go to reach the economic and social standards of the West.

India is an El Dorado compared to a totalitarian state is what I said. Let me give an example-
One of the biggest tycoons of a totalitarian state pleaded for justice in an impromptu speech. The very next day, his presence was wiped out from all social media. He lost control of the companies he built with all his hard work. In fact his companies were blacklisted and he spent the next few years giving lectures in Japan.

Not once overseas did he ever complain about his predicament. This is the kind of power that a totalitarian state has, the power of life and death not only for you but also your loved ones. One wrong word, one unwise act and everything a person has could be lost.

That is why, a small population of ethnically similar people are so desperate to stay out of the clutches of that totalitarian state. In their desperation, opinion polls show that even claim that they are a separate people with a distinct identity even though the ancestors of most of them migrated quite recently.

That is why India is an El Dorado in comparison.
 

Biscuits

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That is not what the data on foreign affairs says, which presumably is true in the economic realm as well.

"Politicians lie more often about foreign affairs to their own people than to other states; and, indeed, lying is more likely in democracies than in other kinds of polity"

Leaders in Democracies lie more - because their publics instinctively trust what the government says and the government needs strong public support.

In comparison, Autocracies don't need to bother with public opinion and with feeding lies to the public.

Source
Mearsheimer - Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics
theguardian.com/books/2011/oct/14/steven-poole-et-cetera-reviews

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I'm reminded of the catalogue of lies that Donald Trump used to spew, which was eagerly lapped up and believed in.
The disappointing thing is that Trump will likely be back as the next US President.

And more recently, the Biden administration's public denials/lies/fudging on inflation and the recession.
Guess whether the truth or the lies became the mainstream media narrative.
Leaders in countries with poor social trust lie more. A country with sufficiently poor social trust can per definition never achieve popular representation (democracy), it is an autocracy either by oligarchy, or good old fashioned dictatorship. The Biden government is the former, since they're a rule by committee and far from a rule by single person.
 

Biscuits

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India has a long way to go to reach the economic and social standards of the West.

India is an El Dorado compared to a totalitarian state is what I said. Let me give an example-
One of the biggest tycoons of a totalitarian state pleaded for justice in an impromptu speech. The very next day, his presence was wiped out from all social media. He lost control of the companies he built with all his hard work. In fact his companies were blacklisted and he spent the next few years giving lectures in Japan.

Not once overseas did he ever complain about his predicament. This is the kind of power that a totalitarian state has, the power of life and death not only for you but also your loved ones. One wrong word, one unwise act and everything a person has could be lost.
So it becomes clear that the totalitarian state you speak of is in fact India itself? A land where tens of thousands of innocents can be swallowed as if they've never existed, under arbitrary internet blackouts, with leaked footage showing murder and torture carried out by security forces being the only remnant of the victims of totalitarian fascism.
That is why, a small population of ethnically similar people are so desperate to stay out of the clutches of that totalitarian state. In their desperation, opinion polls show that even claim that they are a separate people with a distinct identity even though the ancestors of most of them migrated quite recently.
Yes, those of Khalistan and Kashmir. And the Meitei peoples.
That is why India is an El Dorado in comparison.
India, like the real life El Dorado, a totalitarian hell hole filled with starving peasants, ruled by a dictator and his "warrior" caste, living in buildings made out of mud and feces, while sacrificing humans and engaging in animal worship.

Damn, it finally clicked there for me what you're trying to say huh?
 

proelite

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Nobody who has family members in a totalitarian state can ever be free no matter where they go. The fear of saying the wrong word or doing something which puts their loved ones in danger is always there.

They have to act like Eileen Gu, not one single word out of place and every word carefully thought out before being spoken or said.

I'm blinking twice right now because the XIXIPEE has my uncle in Qingdao hostage. Call the US embassy!
 

proelite

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India has a long way to go to reach the economic and social standards of the West.

India is an El Dorado compared to a totalitarian state is what I said. Let me give an example-
One of the biggest tycoons of a totalitarian state pleaded for justice in an impromptu speech. The very next day, his presence was wiped out from all social media. He lost control of the companies he built with all his hard work. In fact his companies were blacklisted and he spent the next few years giving lectures in Japan.

Not once overseas did he ever complain about his predicament. This is the kind of power that a totalitarian state has, the power of life and death not only for you but also your loved ones. One wrong word, one unwise act and everything a person has could be lost.

That is why, a small population of ethnically similar people are so desperate to stay out of the clutches of that totalitarian state. In their desperation, opinion polls show that even claim that they are a separate people with a distinct identity even though the ancestors of most of them migrated quite recently.

That is why India is an El Dorado in comparison.

Jack Ma 2023 net worth is $34.5 billion. He is not under any kind of punishment and is free to do or act in whatever he wants, legally.

I'm finding it hard to sympathize with him.

Stop my company's IPO and break apart my monopoly any day. I did love to be in his situation.

Of all the victims of a totalitarian state, you pick a billionaire who came under regulatory discipline, that stayed a billionaire.
 
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Staedler

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Nobody who has family members in a totalitarian state can ever be free no matter where they go. The fear of saying the wrong word or doing something which puts their loved ones in danger is always there.

They have to act like Eileen Gu, not one single word out of place and every word carefully thought out before being spoken or said.
lol

Not only is this complete nonsense, but I don't have family members in China. Nor do a lot of the members here. Can you stop with the coping, it's getting pretty pathetic.
 

MortyandRick

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India has a long way to go to reach the economic and social standards of the West.

India is an El Dorado compared to a totalitarian state is what I said. Let me give an example-
One of the biggest tycoons of a totalitarian state pleaded for justice in an impromptu speech. The very next day, his presence was wiped out from all social media. He lost control of the companies he built with all his hard work. In fact his companies were blacklisted and he spent the next few years giving lectures in Japan.

Not once overseas did he ever complain about his predicament. This is the kind of power that a totalitarian state has, the power of life and death not only for you but also your loved ones. One wrong word, one unwise act and everything a person has could be lost.

That is why, a small population of ethnically similar people are so desperate to stay out of the clutches of that totalitarian state. In their desperation, opinion polls show that even claim that they are a separate people with a distinct identity even though the ancestors of most of them migrated quite recently.

That is why India is an El Dorado in comparison.
Lol and Kashmir is trying to stay out of the El Dorado that's India. So is khalistan.

Doesn't bode well for you when doing something so innocuous as taking a banana leads to oen being lynched as I alluded to before.

I would say that time is not on India's side. With AI and automation, how will India leverage it's demographics when their unemployment rate is higher than most and will likely get higher. No way they can recover from that time bomb.
 

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There is so much stuff that deserves deleted on this thread that I simply just give up.

I will say that if we cannot have a productive conversation about Indian economics, then there is no reason to have this thread open. I'm going to lock this thread for a few days.
 
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