How important is Iran to China?

DPRKPTboat

Junior Member
We all know China has client states, such as North Korea or Pakistan. China gets most of its oil from Iran. And most Iranian miltiary equpment was made in CHina. So if the U.S.A. invades Iran for its oil (using WMD as an excuse), htne China are going to lose their source of oil and they aren't going to be to pleased......:nono:
And this may lead to a confrontation over Iran's oil. Could it happen?
It would be good to see someone stand in the way of The U.S. bullying another oil-rich third-world country
:china:
 

KYli

Brigadier
DPRKPTboat said:
We all know China has client states, such as North Korea or Pakistan. China gets most of its oil from Iran. And most Iranian miltiary equpment was made in CHina. So if the U.S.A. invades Iran for its oil (using WMD as an excuse), htne China are going to lose their source of oil and they aren't going to be to pleased......:nono:
And this may lead to a confrontation over Iran's oil. Could it happen?
It would be good to see someone stand in the way of The U.S. bullying another oil-rich third-world country
:china:
China does get lot of its' oil from Iran, but iranian military equipment come mostly from Russia not China.
 

EternalVigil

Banned Idiot
Shut up with your propaganda. The US doesnt want Iranian oil and using nuclear weapons as an excuse. The West(meaning the EU and US) do not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon and thats the facts. I tire of idiotic propaganda.
 

KYli

Brigadier
EternalVigil said:
Shut up with your propaganda. The US doesnt want Iranian oil and using nuclear weapons as an excuse. The West(meaning the EU and US) do not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon and thats the facts. I tire of idiotic propaganda.

Please claim down. You can make your statement, but you should not call other people idiotic. Remember here is a restrictive military forum.
 

Gollevainen

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if you want to discuss about iran and China, fine by me...but leave US out of it...as You noticed, It already burst some uphevall...

Remember here is a restrictive military forum

were you supposed to say respective;) ;)
 

KYli

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Gollevainen said:
were you supposed to say respective;) ;)
Whatever Goll, I really am tired of explaning that I never intent to say anything bad about SDF in other forum. If you choose to believe otherwise, it is find by me. I honest wish the best for SDF, but I guess I sometime do make some joke that could be intercept in other way. That is all I am going to say, if things do not work out I will leave. I have been in so many forums for years and still is, but never were an active member anyway.

Since 1994 China began to import oil from other country, and the sum has been increasing ever since. In last few years, Chinese government reliazed the important of oil security, but since most of world oil fields are control by the western nations. China do not have much choice, but choose to become heavyly rely on some of nations that do not have good reputation with the west. Mainly Africans, middles east and south American nations but these have increase the risk of confrontation between the west and china, such as sudan and Iran are the prime example. China could not let the west have their way, but are also reluctant to do anything. Because it could be back fire, could also cause major damage to china reputation.

Since then China began to lower their risk of oil import.

1.China began to buy more oil company in the world, but there are limited available. And many nations will not sell to china, this make china pay heavy price to buy oil fields that are risky.
2.China began to built oil pipeline from central asia and Russia. The Central asia pipeline was done nicely, but the russia pipeline have encounter bidding war with Japan.
3.China are also builting its' own oild deposite, but since oil has skyrocket lately. It will take time.
4.China continued to sign big contracts with Iran, sudan and Vene and pick up the speed to import more from them.
5.China began their own explorer in their oil fields in east, south china sea and increase production in the western province.

In conclusion, China will do its' share to lower the tension between Iran and the west. China and Russia will find a way to solve the nuclear crisis by suggesting ideas to break any diplomat lock. If all these fail to work, I think China might veto a sanction against the west. But the true is I do not think China is willing to draw into conflict between US and Iran. I also think US will encounter major opposition from world if US try to start a war. US may also need to consider their situation in Iraq and their troops were over extended. Do they really need another war?
 
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Gollevainen

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Whatever Goll, I really am tired of explaning that I never intent to say anything bad about SDF in other forum. If you choose to believe otherwise, it is find by me. I honest wish the best for SDF, but I guess I sometime do make some joke that could be intercept in other way. That is all I am going to say, if things do not work out I will leave. I have been in so many forums for years and still is, but never were an active member anyway.

And as i have said over and over again, its not an issue of any matter...maybe i missinterdupted you, maybe i didnt, but seriously, drop the subject...there isent no proplems what so ever, thougth continuing this migth get some. So as no harm is yet done I suggest you to leave the subject once and all, as well as all attempt to find everysingle loop hole to critizise our policyes. You have made good posting sofar so no need to ruin it by making up proplems out of nothing...

So back to the topic!!!
 

KYli

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Gollevainen said:
And as i have said over and over again, its not an issue of any matter...maybe i missinterdupted you, maybe i didnt, but seriously, drop the subject...there isent no proplems what so ever, thougth continuing this migth get some. So as no harm is yet done I suggest you to leave the subject once and all, as well as all attempt to find everysingle loop hole to critizise our policyes. You have made good posting sofar so no need to ruin it by making up proplems out of nothing...

So back to the topic!!!

Understood, but don't make it sound like I am on some sort agendas.


Back to topic.

I think that Iran is extremely important to China, and China do have oil security issue to consider. But risking a confrontation with US, may not be wise decision. Because china do have other mean to fill the oil need, why risk a war.

Beside all these, I think it is more important for China reputation in the Third world. If China let the west have free hand whatsoever, it will not look good for China rising status. That will create dilemma for China. So whatever Chinese do, china will be in hotseat. The best hope is China somehow come up with diplomat solution with Russia.
 
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EternalVigil said:
The West(meaning the EU and US) do not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon and thats the facts.

Indeed. China has to ask itself (as I have said many a time) what it prefers to have - oil to sate its thirst in the short-term or less chance of world-wide proliferation of nuclear weapons in the long-term. If Iran gets nukes it'll be a step on a slippery slope - it'll also increase the chances of whack-jobs getting their mits on one. Does China really think angry Muslims won't turn on it one day?
 

crazyinsane105

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FuManChu said:
Indeed. China has to ask itself (as I have said many a time) what it prefers to have - oil to sate its thirst in the short-term or less chance of world-wide proliferation of nuclear weapons in the long-term. If Iran gets nukes it'll be a step on a slippery slope - it'll also increase the chances of whack-jobs getting their mits on one. Does China really think angry Muslims won't turn on it one day?

This whole "Islamic militants will get their hands on a nuke" is complete rubbish. It was the case for trying to disarm Pakistan back when Pakistan started its nuke program. Guess what happened? There has yet to be an incident where a terrorist has gotten hold of a nuclear device. Furthermore, if Iran hasn't given Hezbollah any Shahab missiles or Kilo submarines, what makes people think that Iran will simply hand over a nuke to a bunch of crazy radicals? Has it ever happened before? No, it hasn't and it probably won't. There is more of a chance that Kim iL Jong will sell his nukes before Iran hands them over to Islamic militants.

Getting back to the topic, Iran is quite important to China. It is the only country left in the region that has massive amounts of oil natural gas and has no influence from American foreign policy. China has signed nearly $100 billion USD worth of contracts with the Iranians alone. If an American friendly government comes in, what exactly do you think can happen to those contracts?
 
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