Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis


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Biscuits

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I'm not suggesting anyone do anything.

I just think it would be hugely humiliating for China if the US sails warships down the straight in a few days time.
Only if there's more and larger US ships than Chinese ships shadowing them, otherwise it'll be kinda humiliating for the US side.

Remember the China straits are misleading named, its not an actual enclosed strait like Gibraltar or Bosphorus, it's more of a channel like the British channel. Ships can transit through according to international law as long as they don't touch either sides of the PRC around the straits.
 

siegecrossbow

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The US strategic reconnaissance and anti-submarine aircraft of Japan and Taiwan are activated.

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49 Chinese aircraft violated Taiwan's airspace

This is such B.S. We saw video footage of a Su-30 basically 20KM off the coast with no accompanying interceptor. They should just stop lying.
 

Barefoot

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Only if there's more and larger US ships than Chinese ships shadowing them, otherwise it'll be kinda humiliating for the US side.

Remember the China straits are misleading named, its not an actual enclosed strait like Gibraltar or Bosphorus, it's more of a channel like the British channel. Ships can transit through according to international law as long as they don't touch either sides of the PRC around the straits.
I understand that, and maybe you're right. If the US is not going to send an aircraft carrier then maybe it is them that look humiliated.

But in just a few days!

I don't think any laws or rules or norms come into it at this point - not that the US has any continuity of its own in that regard anyway.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Surely the humiliation will be all the greater, now.

China conducts this grand show of force, meant, in part, to put the past humiliation behind them, and then immediately after up pops the US sailing past down the straight as if nothing has changed.
No, something has changed: it'll be escorted by a massive show of force that wasn't possible in 1996, just like it did in the SCS with a smaller show of force.
 

MortyandRick

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What use is there if the USS Reagan or other aircraft carriers will only come to Taiwan strait in the future? Likely after the current drills ended? What signal does that send to Taiwan, and to US allies and enemies around the world? Last time in 1996 the US sent two carrier battles groups and 40+ ships into Taiwan strait DURING the drills. Not AFTER
That's actually US propaganda. The US announced sailing their ships toward China near the end of the exist knowing that by the time they got there, the exercise would have ended to make it look like they were scared of the carriers.

But according to Chinese military, the carrier groups weren't anywhere else the Taiwan strait at that time and they only send a spy ship off the coast.

The carriers came much later.
 

siegecrossbow

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I understand that, and maybe you're right. If the US is not going to send an aircraft carrier then maybe it is them that look humiliated.

But in just a few days!

I don't think any laws or rules or norms come into it at this point - not that the US has any continuity of its own in that regard anyway.

China just closed communications channels with the U.S. military. It is highly risky to conduct a freedom of passage trip so close to the mainland.
 
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