Feasibility of China initiating an arms race with USA?

TK3600

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As we know right now China is merely spending 1.4% gdp on military. But what if this changes to 3%? By 2027 chinese nominal gdp will surpass USA. By PPP that is another 40% higher in reality. If you combine with cheaper personnel cost, more efficient commercial industry such as shipss building, as well as the fact MIC are fully nationalized, what does it mean? You get 140% the money and you also spend it more efficiently. It may as well be double. The gap will keep increasing. This will force American to spend twice the money to just keep up, and taking money away from internal stability issues. The goal is to force internal instability so US drop out of international competition against Chinese interest.

There will be some caveats of course.

1. US dollar must be neutralized so American cannot just pay with money printing with little consequences.
2. Technology and production for the weaponry must not be bottlenecked. For example, right now spending money alone do not increase plane engine throughput. This needs to be addressed.
3. The coverage of the military must be comprehensive, with no obvious shortcuts to counter with less money. For example, China needs stronger nuclear stockpile so American cannot bypass weaker conventional force with nuclear threats.
4. The build up should be offensive oriented. This will force diplomatic pressure for US to keep up or suffer its influence elsewhere. This should be simple enough.

Thoughts?
 
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Volpler11

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It is not just the US that China has to be worried about, but also the EU, Korea, and Japan which adds up to a substantial amount of the world's economy.
 

Overbom

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As we know right now China is merely spending 1.4% gdp on military. But what if this changes to 3%? By 2027 chinese nominal gdp will surpass USA. By PPP that is another 40% higher in reality. If you combine with cheaper personnel cost, more efficient commercial industry such as shipss building, as well as the fact MIC are fully nationalized, what does it mean? You get 140% the money and you also spend it more efficiently. It may as well be double. The gap will keep increasing. This will force American to spend twice the money to just keep up, and taking money away from internal stability issues. The goal is to force internal instability so US drop out of international competition against Chinese interest.

There will be some caveats of course.

1. US dollar must be neutralized so American cannot just pay with money printing with little consequences.
2. Technology and production for the weaponry must not be bottlenecked. For example, right now spending money alone do not increase plane engine throughput. This needs to be addressed.
3. The coverage of the military must be comprehensive, with no obvious shortcuts to counter with less money. For example, China needs stronger nuclear stockpile so American cannot bypass weaker conventional force with nuclear threats.
4. The build up should be offensive oriented. This will force diplomatic pressure for US to keep up or suffer its influence elsewhere. This should be simple enough.

Thoughts?
It doesn't matter.

While I agree that military spending needs to increase a lot more, the main "battlefield" between the US+vassals and China is on the economic and technology domains

So I would rather have massive resources directed to tech R&D + domestic reforms than military spending.

An arms race could be possible only when China comprehensively passes the West in technology and economy.
 

ThomX

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The response of CCP will be like, wot, why?
Chinese defence budget is enough to cover its R&D and China has its own plan and pace. One footstep by the other, not chasing some countries. Just look at space exploration programs. China knows 脚踏实地 and 实事求是 better than anyone.
Besides, even a tiny bit increase in proportion of gdp means additional multibillion yuan. Why should CCP put the money in defence budget rather than putting it in civil sectors to promote quality lives of its people? Do we face imminent threats that nowadays PLA cannot fight against?
 

W20

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"The Death Star was the Empire’s ultimate weapon: a moon-sized space station with the ability to destroy an entire planet"

The empire's "death star" was the Carrier-Strike Group. To this problem China has devoted much time, effort and money, and today China's defense is phenomenal. It is simply impossible to attack China conventionally

Well

Now the question is that the real core of the empire, the real death star capable of destroying an entire planet, i.e. a country ... is the Dollar

So

"the main "battlefield" between the US+vassals and China is on the economic and technology domains"

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