Evidence of Covid as bioweapon

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SimaQian

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I make a separate thread for this as this is a very controversial and sensitive topic.
There also a similar post in other thread in

Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)​

but can easily gets buried. There are some great minds in this forum, so it would be good
to solicit their inputs of this assertion.


An American physicist came up with a conclusion that this virus is an American bio attack on China. Even reposting this article on reddit and facebook ( I tried both of this will get this article blocked. This is a double post from another thread, so that more people will try to think rationally what is this covid is all about. Even if the first two arguments are purely coincidental, how to explain points 6 and 7?


Summary of that article.

(1) For three years, China had been locked in growing conflict with America over trade and geopolitics, and for three years in a row, China had been hit very hard by mysterious viruses. An Avian Flu virus severely damaged its poultry industry in 2018 and the following year a Swine Flu virus destroyed over 40% of its pig herds, China’s primary meat source. The third year, Covid-19 appeared. Certainly a suspicious pattern if the last were just a random lab-leak.

(2) The Covid-19 outbreak appeared at absolutely the worst time and place for China, the major transit hub of Wuhan, timed almost perfectly to reach high local levels of infection just as the travelers for the Lunar New Year holiday spread the disease to all other parts of the country, thereby producing an unstoppable epidemic. The timing of an accidental lab-leak would obviously be random.

(3) 300 American military servicemen had just visited Wuhan as part of the World Military Games, providing a perfect opportunity for releasing a viral bioweapon. Consider what Americans would think if 300 Chinese military officers had visited Chicago, and immediately afterwards a mysterious, deadly viral disease suddenly broke out in that city. It would be a strange coincidence if that the American military visit and an entirely unrelated accidental lab-leak had occurred at exactly the same time.

(4) The characteristics of Covid-19, including high communicability and low lethality, are absolutely ideal in an anti-economy bioweapon. It seems odd that a random lab-leak would release a virus so perfectly designed to severely damage the Chinese economy.

(5) From almost the very moment that the outbreak began, anti-China bloggers in America and the US-funded Radio Free Asia network had launched a powerful international propaganda offensive against China, claiming that the outbreak in Wuhan was due to the leak of an illegal bioweapon from the Wuhan lab. This may have merely been an exceptionally prompt but opportunistic response of our propaganda organs, but they seemed remarkably quick to take full advantage of an entirely unexpected and mysterious development, which they immediately identified as being due to a lab-leak.

(6) By “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency had already begun preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan although according to the standard timeline at that point probably only a couple of dozen people had started experiencing any symptoms of illness in a city of 11 million. How did they discover what was happening in Wuhan so much sooner than the Chinese government or anyone else?

(7) Almost immediately afterwards, the ruling political elites in Iran became severely infected, with many of them dying. Why did the accidental Wuhan lab-leak jump to the Iran’s political elites so quickly, before it had reached almost anywhere else in the world.

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broadsword

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(3) 300 American military servicemen had just visited Wuhan as part of the World Military Games, providing a perfect opportunity for releasing a viral bioweapon. Consider what Americans would think if 300 Chinese military officers had visited Chicago, and immediately afterwards a mysterious, deadly viral disease suddenly broke out in that city. It would be a strange coincidence if that the American military visit and an entirely unrelated accidental lab-leak had occurred at exactly the same time.

(6) By “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency had already begun preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan although according to the standard timeline at that point probably only a couple of dozen people had started experiencing any symptoms of illness in a city of 11 million. How did they discover what was happening in Wuhan so much sooner than the Chinese government or anyone else?

These two points are interesting, especially #6. I wish for more info and digging.
 

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These two points are interesting, especially #6. I wish for more info and digging.

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These are the sources provided by point 6


(6) By “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency had already begun preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan although according to the standard timeline at that point probably only a couple of dozen people had started experiencing any symptoms of illness in a city of 11 million. How did they discover what was happening in Wuhan so much sooner than the Chinese government or anyone else?

So American intelligence know already what is going to happen in Wuhan back in November 2019.
Sounds like the classic James Bond "Tomorrow Never Dies" plot where they can write stories before they can happen.


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SimaQian

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Oddly, AFAIK, no epidemiologist has ever been known to comment on that early discovery.
Because they focus on the science and not the overall picture. The author of the research not only digs for the science but the the overall picture as well. I mean it maybe coincidental to have to major viral outbreaks in two years in a row on poultry and pigs in China, could it be an accident also that a viral outbreak happens in one of the most important transport junction in China at the peak travel season?


And also why is it the next country epicenter of Covid was Iran and many of victims are top leadership of Iran. and take note an Iranian general was assassinated in broad daylight in January 2019. It is just too much coincidence that this is a random viral outbreak.


I still remember from that James Bond movie "Tomorrow Never dies" that the most important part of any story, is not the what how or when but why it happen.
 
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broadsword

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Because they focus on the science and not the overall picture.

I mean, don't epidemiologists or medical experts think the American Intelligence extraordinary early prognosis smell fishy? Yet, no one as ever been debriefed on that mystery.

Edit: Don't they think the American Intelligence have that uncanny ability to predict, so early, a very serious outbreak was going to happen? Or do they think it was quite normally early?
 
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SimaQian

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That is why the research starts with this preamble.

As every fan of the old Perry Mason show remembers, courtroom witnesses swear “to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.”

There’s a reason for that particular choice of words. A pattern of selective omissions in an otherwise entirely truthful presentation can easily mislead us as much as any outright lie. And under certain circumstances, such omissions may be made necessary by powerful outside forces, so that even the most well-intentioned writer is faced with the difficult choice of either excluding certain elements from his analysis or having his important work denied a proper audience.
 

solarz

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One of the biggest problems with these kinds of "theories" (I'll omit the word conspiracy out of respect to the OP) is that it makes claims without showing any evidence.

The Iranian leadership got infected, and many died? When did this happen? Who exactly died, and what were their positions?

The Americans secretly prepared a report on "cataclysmic disease outbreak in Wuhan" in November (2019 I presume)? Where is this report? Can we read it for ourselves?

Covid-19 has low lethality? By what standards? If you compare it to rabies, yeah sure. However, if you compare it to influenza, it's more lethal by orders of magnitude!

In any case, what kind of moronic strategist would deploy a highly contagious bioweapon without preparing for the possibility of the outbreak coming to the US? Especially when there was so much travel between the two countries?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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This is conspiracy theory. We have heard it all before. The usual what if’s and loaded questions.
Just as American media can perpetuate conspiracy theories so to can Chinese especially if it’s intent to try and cover failing in the response to a crisis.
#1 so what? We don’t have a conclusive proof that it was generated by a lab or not. We don’t have proof of anything in fact. We also have a pretty shoddy timeline.
#2 that’s how epidemics work. If not we’ll look at the Ebola outbreak a few years back. Because it wasn’t in a central travel hub and had a fast burn time it burned out quickly. The few cases that leaked out of Africa were identified, isolated and quarantined.
#3 Conspiracy theory. Usually done as a double score with the claim that American athletes performance was so terrible that they must have been sick. Of course this ignores that we didn’t see huge outbreaks of COVID on US bases afterwards but rather When American cases did spike it was major civilian population centers. Centers often home to China town communities that regularly travel to the mainland for festivals.
#4 No they are absolutely that of highly infectious epidemic vs a fast burning low survival like Ebola or worse. Besides, if this was targeted at China why then follow China in to lock down? Why stomp out your own economy? I mean if this is some advanced conspiracy to put the breaks on China why also disrupt the Global economy?
#5 And Antiamerican bloggers the global times, powerful ProCCP quickly spread the claim of the American bio weapon release, drew lines to unrelated Maryland illnesses and then pointed the finger at Italy and just about everyone else.
#6 You mean that the DIA shouldn’t have been doing it’s job? COVID-19 was identified in December but that’s only when it was clear what it was at least months earlier cases were happening.
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SARS 1 back in 2002 had been used to rewrite the way agencies in both global health and intelligence monitors for potential epidemic. It also shifted epidemic from a National security issue. Early on the CCP was trying to down play the outbreak. The arrest of Dr. Li Wenliang shows that. Yet Li wasn’t talking about a single patient he was talking about an ER filled with them. By that point in December it was a full epidemic. It wasn’t until January and even then late January that the lockdown was imposed.
#7 Iranian political elites are the most likely to travel or be in contact with people whom have. Farther around that time period China and Iran were hammering out a $400Billion dollar loan deal. As such Iranian officials were likely going Back and forth to mainland China for meetings.
 
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