CV-XX (003 carrier) Thread I ... News & Discussions

[taxiya]

052D is vastly different than 052C. There's a 10 years gap between them. One is limited VLS + slanted launchers, the other is full VLS.

None of the differences you mentioned deserves a new digit. One of the many example is J-7 produced from 1965 to 2013 with much more letters, more missile and radar upgrades, yet it was always J-7. It can not be compared with the jump to J-10.

This is the PLA rule, not yours or mine. The basic rule in PLAN for a new digit/type is the basic design architecture of hull plus power-plant. 052C and D are of the same hull and power-plant, any other changes are just upgrade no matter how vast you perceive.

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However, you could be right IF 004 simply means ship number 4 instead of type 004.

 

[Deino]

Guys ... you are once again off-topic. We ha a dedicated thread for the J-35, for general issues and so on,

 

[gelgoog]

I seem to remember there was a discussion at one point here that the 003 could be being built on two separate shipyards with two separate construction processes, one on each yard, to test out which process is better for when 004 comes out. Is this still going to be the case?

What's the estimate for IOC for the 003? It's being built so quickly I wouldn't be surprised if it was launched either this year or next.

I think the J-15T would be more than adequate for the CATOBAR carriers. It is almost certain to have more payload capability than the initial J-XY would have because it is a bigger aircraft with larger engines. In fact I'm surprised it's entering production this soon. This seems to be faster than the production of the aircraft for 002. But this is likely to solve any issues with the aircraft. This time it isn't like 002 where they could use 001's J-15s for initial carrier flight tests. They don't have any other production catapult capable aircraft they can use. Maybe only a couple of J-15T prototypes manufactured for the land based catapult tests.

 

[Intrepid]

I seem to remember there was a discussion at one point here that the 003 could be being built on two separate shipyards with two separate construction processes, one on each yard, to test out which process is better for when 004 comes out. Is this still going to be the case?

At the moment there is no evidence of a sister ship anywhere.

I think the Chinese want to wait a little longer and get their first experience with 003 before they finish the next design.

 

[MarkD]

At the moment there is no evidence of a sister ship anywhere.

I think the Chinese want to wait a little longer and get their first experience with 003 before they finish the next design.

2 003 before moving on to 004. 003 is not the mass produced version. 004 is the mass produced version. You can think of 003 compared to 004 is akin to 052C compared to 052D. 004 design is most likely in an advanced stage and construction can start as soon as the second 003 is launched.

 

[P5678]

2 003 before moving on to 004. 003 is not the mass produced version. 004 is the mass produced version.

Is this only your thought or you have some source to prove it?

 

[kentchang]

Is this only your thought or you have some source to prove it?

There is zero credible evidence of a 004. Serial production of the 003 (or 003A) is just as likely at this point.

 

[kentchang]

You can compare 003 with 052C. Not mass produced like 052D but not few produced like 052B, 051C.

Or you can compare with 055 (qty 8), 056 (qty 22+50), 071 (qty 8), or 075 (qty 3). All four classes represent much more recent production patterns and perfectly reasonable basis to argue that China no longer needs to build transitional classes of ships.

With no pressing need for a firm commitment, R&D can go on but everything else is all pure speculation. Prudent to wait and see whether U.S. will continue with the Ford program first.

 

[by78]

You can think of 003 compared to 004 is akin to 052C compared to 052D. 004 design is most likely in an advanced stage and construction can start as soon as the second 003 is launched.

You can compare 003 with 052C. Not mass produced like 052D but not few produced like 052B, 051C.

Please stop, just stop. You've been asked by a mod to stop, and yet you persist. This thread is becoming unreadable. Please be considerate of the wider community.

@Deino, sorry to bother you, but this thread is going out of hand.

 

[Haot]

The installed upper hanger module looks something like this, credit from Baidu Tieba and QQ. We can see that there has been two unfinished elevator modules being installed to the ship's starboard side. No sign yet for the third elevator hole on the left portside side of the ship because if there is a third one it is definitely going to be more backward to the rear.