CV-XX (003 carrier) Thread I ... News & Discussions


Deino

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It's possible, China's economy does have the potential to be 4 times larger than US ergo operating 48 Nimitz class carriers at the same time without burning a hole in the pocket.


Nope! 48 Nimitz class carrier is even for China too much overkill.

I'll bet 12 will be built in the next 40 years and all other aircraft carriers will be given to allies.


Not sure about this option and please don't proclaim this too loud since otherwise some fan-boys at the PDF will again hyperventilate! ;)
 

jimmyjames30x30

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I'll bet 12 will be built in the next 40 years and all other aircraft carriers will be given to allies.
8 is the most likely number for the long run. I believe China and the US will eventually sit down and devise a navel arms control treaty. China will be happy to stick to 8 AC, the US will most likely have 11 to 12. And it is very likely that other party such as Russia will also enter the treaty. With China's help, Russia could easily build and operate up to four 85,000+ ton supercarriers. China and Russia having a total of 12 super carriers, while the US will drag in the EU and have a couple more (11-12 for the US, 2-3 for the EU).
 

ansy1968

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8 is the most likely number for the long run. I believe China and the US will eventually sit down and devise a navel arms control treaty. China will be happy to stick to 8 AC, the US will most likely have 11 to 12. And it is very likely that other party such as Russia will also enter the treaty. With China's help, Russia could easily build and operate up to four 85,000+ ton supercarriers. China and Russia having a total of 12 super carriers, while the US will drag in the EU and have a couple more (11-12 for the US, 2-3 for the EU).
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8 AC, 12 LHD and 6 LHD(EM)?
 

j17wang

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Nope! 48 Nimitz class carrier is even for China too much overkill.




Not sure about this option and please don't proclaim this too loud since otherwise some fan-boys at the PDF will again hyperventilate! ;)

Agree that 48 Nimitz is overkill, there is no use for such assets.

It is more likely than not though that at least 2 carriers will eventually be given away. Liaoning will be an outlier in PLAN force doctrine by FY40, as it will be too expensive compared to an LHD, yet have almost no capability compared to CATOBAR CV or CVNs. Plus, you would need to maintain a unique supporting fleet of ski-jump aircraft. Liaoning and Shandong could retire in 20 years and china would still have gotten great use and value out of them. I also think the PLA is pragmatic, although many chinese would like it to turn into a museum, it serves a more useful goal to help build capacity/capability for alliance nations who might not otherwise be able to build their own.

I'm thinking of stronger alliance partners like Pakistan, Turkey, and maybe indonesia as ideal candidates to support the operations of a carrier, but dont want to spend ~$5 billion on a brand new solution. A Liaoning type asset offers a turnkey solution which would still be attractive to any country barring a superpower.
 

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Guys .. stick to the topic, which is the 003 carrier and not again in these discussion on how many and if more than the USN is better!?

Reiterating what Deino has said, please move discussion back on topic. Any further posts will be deleted.

There is a generic Aircraft Carriers thread in the World Armed Forces section that discussions about the rest of the world's carrier developments and/or procurement can be made in:
 

Deino

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Guys ... could you please explain what's up!?? :mad:

There have been two kind reminders by two moderators and even several posts were moved to the correct thread and still you cannot hold back these strategic, USN-vs-PLAN or Russia posts!

Take this as a clear warning: any next off-topic post will result in a two-week vacation!
 

Orthan

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Guys ... could you please explain what's up!?? :mad:

There have been two kind reminders by two moderators and even several posts were moved to the correct thread and still you cannot hold back these strategic, USN-vs-PLAN or Russia posts!

Take this as a clear warning: any next off-topic post will result in a two-week vacation!

i agree, but seems to me that you also participated in this:

Nope! 48 Nimitz class carrier is even for China too much overkill.




Not sure about this option and please don't proclaim this too loud since otherwise some fan-boys at the PDF will again hyperventilate! ;)
 

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