CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Tam

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If the photographer could continue panning the camera to the right, he may find the first Type 075 wharfed there.

Type 003 carrier - 20201027 - 2.jpg
 

Intrepid

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It seems slower ...
I imagine it this way: the ship was not yet fully planned because of the change from steam to electromagnetic catapults. But production capacities were already booked. That is why the lower hull was made so that it did not have to be rescheduled. Now it is waiting for the planning to be completed and construction will then continue.
 

Blitzo

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I imagine it this way: the ship was not yet fully planned because of the change from steam to electromagnetic catapults. But production capacities were already booked. That is why the lower hull was made so that it did not have to be rescheduled. Now it is waiting for the planning to be completed and construction will then continue.

Not sure about that, I think the beginning of the fabrication of the ship's super modules was made only after the decision for the catapult was made.
The "delay" caused by the catapult decision I think was only in the time of commencing the work of the ship, but they hadn't done much if any physical work on the ship AIUI.
It's not like they began fabrication of the super blocks and then part way through they stopped the work to decide which catapult type they wanted.
 

Intrepid

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My explanation would be: the decision to use electromagnetic catapults was made before construction began. But the change in the construction plans was only completed after the start of production or is still ongoing (the pace of production is still very subdued).

I know that from my project manager days, when the production team is without tasks and has to be kept busy even though the planning phase has not yet been completed. Then you look for the sub-projects that are likely to be least affected by changes and have them built on heap.

What is not allowed are employees without a task. Everyone needs to be kept busy.
 

Blitzo

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My explanation would be: the decision to use electromagnetic catapults was made before construction began. But the change in the construction plans was only completed after the start of production or is still ongoing (the pace of production is still very subdued).

I know that from my project manager days, when the production team is without tasks and has to be kept busy even though the planning phase has not yet been completed. Then you look for the sub-projects that are likely to be least affected by changes and have them built on heap.

What is not allowed are employees without a task. Everyone needs to be kept busy.

The underlined part is what I'm not sure about. It would be... a surprise if a project like this was able to be commenced if the plans were not yet set in a certain amount of stone, and I suppose more of my skepticism is that I don't think the current pace of production is really that subdued at all.

The current pace of production is about what I would expect given the method of production and the greater complexity of this ship.
 

Anlsvrthng

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The underlined part is what I'm not sure about. It would be... a surprise if a project like this was able to be commenced if the plans were not yet set in a certain amount of stone, and I suppose more of my skepticism is that I don't think the current pace of production is really that subdued at all.

The current pace of production is about what I would expect given the method of production and the greater complexity of this ship.

What is strange is the absence of machinery/equipment preparation/installation teams .

type1a.jpg

This was the Shandong during construction.

lot of small workshop/prep area.

Could expect way more prep area for a bigger, more sophisticated ship, with bigger engines, more lift, arresting gear, possibly catapult, and less space compared to volume.

Like in the case of nimitz/ford.
 

Blitzo

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What is strange is the absence of machinery/equipment preparation/installation teams .

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This was the Shandong during construction.

lot of small workshop/prep area.

Could expect way more prep area for a bigger, more sophisticated ship, with bigger engines, more lift, arresting gear, possibly catapult, and less space compared to volume.

Like in the case of nimitz/ford.

Looks reasonable to me. There are two massive movable covers which we can't see exactly what is being worked on below, and the recent quality of pictures have not exactly been ideal to discern the exact nature of the various clutter and parts around the drydock.

At this point in time the operating null hypothesis is that this hull is carrier 003, and until such a time that evidence emerges that it is definitively not a carrier, then I see no reason to entertain the idea of the hull or its surroundings looking "strange".
If it looks "strange" it's likely because we're either missing something due to the time the image was taken or the quality of the image.
 

NeutralWarrior

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If this is true, then it has answered my query. The construction is temporary stalled.

Hopefully it gets back to pace soon, add oil!

I think it is more likely that they are waiting for components of the catapults or generators or something like that to be available before continuing with the construction. This ship is more complex inside than the Type 002.
 
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