CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

kriss

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Is it safe to assume the same person who took this photo also would have taken some pictures of dry dock 4? We might see what happens soon.
 

Blitzo

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Seems as if the modules reappeared at the area behind drydock no. 4. here marked green in this old image.


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Deino, I don't understand what you're saying.

First of all, that is of course an old picture, as you yourself correctly point out.

But the rest of your post I don't understand:

1. Are you saying there are rumours that the modules at the construction facilitly have been rumoured to have been moved to close to drydock 4?
2. If yes to the above, then why are you using that old and outdated image to illustrate the location? Not only is that image out of date in terms of drydock 4's current configuration, but that photo also has the problem of showing the old "mock up carrier module" that JN built many years ago which many people at the time incorrectly interpreted as a real carrier. Using that image only serves to create confusion, doesn't it?
3. What "green area" in that photo are you talking about, because there are only three yellowish looking indicators there -- one yellow circle at the bottom circling the drydock, one thick see through yellow line/angle, and one see through yellowish looking circle.


It might be better to take a clear, more recent satellite image of drydock 4 and point out where you are exactly talking about, so there's no confusion.

E.g.: use this image from 23/4 this year of JN and drydock 4, and circle what place you're talking about?

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Deino

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Deino, I don't understand what you're saying.

First of all, that is of course an old picture, as you yourself correctly point out.

But the rest of your post I don't understand:

1. Are you saying there are rumours that the modules at the construction facilitly have been rumoured to have been moved to close to drydock 4?
2. If yes to the above, then why are you using that old and outdated image to illustrate the location? Not only is that image out of date in terms of drydock 4's current configuration, but that photo also has the problem of showing the old "mock up carrier module" that JN built many years ago which many people at the time incorrectly interpreted as a real carrier. Using that image only serves to create confusion, doesn't it?
3. What "green area" in that photo are you talking about, because there are only three yellowish looking indicators there -- one yellow circle at the bottom circling the drydock, one thick see through yellow line/angle, and one see through yellowish looking circle.


It might be better to take a clear, more recent satellite image of drydock 4 and point out where you are exactly talking about, so there's no confusion.

E.g.: use this image from 23/4 this year of JN and drydock 4, and circle what place you're talking about?

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First of all sorry for the confusion, but when I found that images and talked with Sean O'Connor, I was still not at home and so I took an old image I just found in a minute.

But let me try to clarify:

First, your proposal to "...use this image from 23/4 this year of JN and drydock 4, and circle what place you're talking about?" is not useful since it lacks exactly the important part behind drydock 4, but first to your questions:

1. Are you saying there are rumours that the modules at the construction facility have been rumoured to have been moved to close to drydock 4?

Not rumors, but there is imagery that the modules reappeared in that area behind the drydock, where the barge was built. The drydock itself seems to be occupied by a huge commercial vessel.
As such, the modules are directly behind dry dock #4. If you look, this part is split into two halves, left and right and the left half is, where the modules reappeared (Sean says, for the moment only one of them is visible, while the others are partially obscured under these moveable sheds.

Probably this gives a best glimpse to these sheds, which are still not visible at GoogleEarth.

PLN Type 003 carrier - 20200426 barge at dock no. 4 part.JPG


2. If yes to the above, then why are you using that old and outdated image to illustrate the location? Not only is that image out of date in terms of drydock 4's current configuration, but that photo also has the problem of showing the old "mock up carrier module" that JN built many years ago which many people at the time incorrectly interpreted as a real carrier. Using that image only serves to create confusion, doesn't it?
3. What "green area" in that photo are you talking about, because there are only three yellowish looking indicators there -- one yellow circle at the bottom circling the drydock, one thick see through yellow line/angle, and one see through yellowish looking circle.

You are right, and I'm sorry ... but as explained, it was the best I had at hand yesterday. :(


In summary it should be like this:

PLN Type 003 carrier - reapeared 20200608.jpg
 

Blitzo

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First of all sorry for the confusion, but when I found that images and talked with Sean O'Connor, I was still not at home and so I took an old image I just found in a minute.

But let me try to clarify:

First, your proposal to "...use this image from 23/4 this year of JN and drydock 4, and circle what place you're talking about?" is not useful since it lacks exactly the important part behind drydock 4, but first to your questions:



Not rumors, but there is imagery that the modules reappeared in that area behind the drydock, where the barge was built. The drydock itself seems to be occupied by a huge commercial vessel.
As such, the modules are directly behind dry dock #4. If you look, this part is split into two halves, left and right and the left half is, where the modules reappeared (Sean says, for the moment only one of them is visible, while the others are partially obscured under these moveable sheds.

Probably this gives a best glimpse to these sheds, which are still not visible at GoogleEarth.

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You are right, and I'm sorry ... but as explained, it was the best I had at hand yesterday. :(


In summary it should be like this:

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Thanks for the clarification.

So are you saying that SOC has said that he has imagery confirming that the 003 blocks have been moved to that staging area near drydock 4, and are under the mobile shetlers?

I find that idea to be very surprising, because it would imply that the 003 blocks have somehow been moved without us being aware of it -- without rumours or pictures of the movement of the super blocks.
The terrain of the shipyard also means that the 003 blocks should be far too large to move over land, therefore the only way it would be able to be done is via the floating mobile dock, however it is such a large platform and the blocks are so big that I find it difficult to imagine that it could have been moved without anyone taking a picture or noticing.
 
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