Chinese UCAV/CCA/flying wing drones (ISR, A2A, A2G) thread

[GTI]

I hope the PLA decides on a prefix/suffix naming designation for unmanned systems, or to give them specific names not used for manned systems, soon.

At least there’s only unmanned attack / 攻击 / GonJi for example, but this (GJ) could be used for manned systems, I guess. Whereas we have pterodactyl / WL, CH etc., which isn’t really suited to manned systems.

For example, will they give the big UCAVs ‘J’ designations, add a prefix/suffix (e.g. QJ), or call them something else entirely.

 

[Tomboy]

I hope the PLA decides on a prefix/suffix naming designation for unmanned systems, or to give them specific names not used for manned systems, soon.

At least there’s only unmanned attack / 攻击 / GonJi for example, but this (GJ) could be used for manned systems, I guess. Whereas we have pterodactyl / WL, CH etc., which isn’t really suited to manned systems.

For example, will they give the big UCAVs ‘J’ designations, add a prefix/suffix (e.g. QJ), or call them something else entirely.

I'm pretty sure officially for the Airforce there right now only is GJ (Strike) and WZ (Recon/ISR) series of drones. WL, CH etc are marketing names used by their respective manufacturer for export sales. Whether PLAAF will have a third designation for CCAs or will just put them into the GJ series of drones is something we'll find out tomorrow.

 

[xmupzx]

If the truck's cargo deck is indeed 9 m long (as i've tried to establish) then the two CCA's would be around 10 m long. Right one around 10.5 m and left one a little under 10 m long. If someone knows the exact truck model name and dimensions, that'd help too. (seems to me like Shaanxi SX2306 but I can't be sure)
Those two seem the smallest/shortest ones of the whole bunch.

For confidentiality reasons, the models we see may not be 1:1, and even the shape is not real

 

[Tomboy]

For confidentiality reasons, the models we see may not be 1:1, and even the shape is not real

The models should both be nearly 1:1 and be of approximate shape to the actual vehicle. Atleast enough to the point when someone actually sees the real deal you could easily recognize it.

 

[ougoah]

Collaborative Combat Aircrafts include the set of strike and ISR drones as long as they are a part of the network which include manned combat aircraft. This means aircraft within GJ series and WZ series, or when operating with manned combat aircraft can be considered CCA technically.

It's tricky now that CCA is widely held to mean this next generation of UAVs that are more closely teamed with fighter aircraft. It wouldn't be incorrect to call the GJ-11 a CCA. It's not doubt networked to act tactically with existing manned PLAAF fighters.

It would be interesting to find out whether PLAAF will have a different designation for fighter focused CCA, maybe WJ - unmanned fighter.

 

[ougoah]

For confidentiality reasons, the models we see may not be 1:1, and even the shape is not real

They may not be but historically, the parade mockup missiles and drones have been 1:1 in the past. Even strategically important platforms like new missiles have been shown in 1:1 mockups.

Mockup level of detail is always dulled intentionally though. General shape and details are highly representative. Details are intentionally varied. Some details have given away a fair bit and sometimes they are completely taken out of the mockups.

 

[Jason_]

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Ayi and Xiyazhou was talking about CCA tonight (both upcoming PLA ones and YFQ-42) and I noticed they used the diagram that I first saw here on SDF. If anyone recall the original creator they they @ them?

They referred to the creator as "推上的爱国网友 / patriotic netizen on twitter".

Can't say anything super intelligent about their discussion on CCA though, I was distracted and not paying too much attention.

Honored to be featured by the Otter and the General. I am making more for the new stuff in 9.3 by the way.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Tentative designations for the SIX (6!) spotted CCA-type UCAVs for tomorrow's parade by @Deino on Twitter:

Type A, Type B, Type C (lol), Type D, Type E and Type F.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1962888974071951368

 

[Deino]

I just noticed @huitong has started referring to these drones as "Type-X," which could serve as a helpful initial overview for their designation ... I started with those he already "designated" and continued that way. Any corrections appreciated!

No. 1 or Type A: ... not yet seen uncovered


No. 2 or Type B: ... also not yet seen uncovered


No. 3 or Type C:


No. 4 or Type D:


No. 5 or Type E:


No. 6 or Type F:

 

[Deino]

Tentative designations for the SIX (6!) spotted CCA-type UCAVs for tomorrow's parade by @Deino on Twitter:

Type A, Type B, Type C (lol), Type D, Type E and Type F.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1962888974071951368

You beat me to it again, because I didn't want to post it here directly as a link... by the way, No. 4 aka Type D looks different in both images! So maybe I made a mistake?!!