Chinese deployment in Sudan

fishhead

Banned Idiot
Here is the interview with the manager and expert of China's Daqing Petro, conducted last year, very interesting

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“我国一流的勘探技术,也可以说是被贫油国的地位逼出来的”。韩学功说,苏丹本来储量不大,中石油去了,马上就是1000万吨的产量,靠的就是技术,哈萨克斯坦和秘鲁也都是这样。

Translate:

"We have the world first class oil exploration technilogy, it forces us to have that since China is a country without much oil. Sudan didn't have much oil (before), but Sino Petro went there and immdediately materialized the 10 million ton production capability. Same thing as Peru and Kazakhstan, We have that technology"

The article also talks about British SOCO couldn't find oil in Mogolia for many years, at last they sold the right to Daqing for 40m USD. And for less half a year, Daqing found oil there and got their investment back, estimated reserve 800-1000 million tons.

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grugged

Just Hatched
Registered Member
Hey mobydog
I wasn't actually posing the qustion, I was just giving some background info on myself. But thanks for the interesting links, I might put up a link to my thesis when i'm finished with it in a couple of weeks. Cheers
 

mobydog

Junior Member
Hey mobydog

I wasn't actually posing the qustion, I was just giving some background info on myself. But thanks for the interesting links, I might put up a link to my thesis when i'm finished with it in a couple of weeks. Cheers
Oh.. sorry.

Oh, please post your thesis in the member's club Section, so that our members can help with constructive opinions.


And for the hell of it.. the following are some projects undertaken by China in Sudan:

1) The biggest pipeline in africa at a cost of 1 billions dollar (1506 km)

2) A second pipeline from Western Kordofan state to Port Sudan (780 km)

3) An oil terminal al Bashaer south of Port sudan with a capacity of 2 millions ton of oil.

4) Built a US $215 million new oil terminal to service blocks 3 and 7(oil concession)

5) Built the khartoum refinery at cost of 1 billions dollar,which is now producing 100 000 b/day.

6) Constructing the biggest dam in africa at merowe which will double electricity production of the country.
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7) Harbin Power Company built the Qarre I thermal power Station, about 50 km north of Khartoum, at a cost of US $149 million provided by China's Central Bank and is building the Quarre II.

8) Underconstruction of a 1,745 km power transmission line and transformation stations, the longest ever built in Sudan. Launched in early 2004, this project is due to be completed in 2007 at a cost of nearly US $466 million.

9)In 2002, at a cost of US $23 million, China's Petroleum and Natural Gas Exploration and Development Corporation established Sudan's polypropylene factory in Khartoum.

List of shareholders of Sudan Concession.
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So far China have invested in total 7 billions dollars in oil industry since 1996 (oil wells,,pumps...), since then donated more than 30 million dollars in charity activities.and 2.7 billion dollars interest free loan. If you compare it to Chad, apart from the oil pipeline.. nothing else.. if I'm not wrong.

Bush to meet leader of Darfur rebel group, July 2006
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Sudan urges Chad to stop support for Darfur rebels
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A sudanese army officer graduating from Paskal Basic Course, Malaysia.
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Schumacher

Senior Member
Very interesting indeed. US envoy defending China's role in Sudan.
I've also thought how the hell can one have much influence or pressure on Sudan if u cut off all ties, unless of course ur prepared to send in troops.
Let's hope China can work out something from the 'inside'.

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US defends China's role in Darfur

Financial TimesAll Financial Times News

Andrew Natsios, the US special envoy for Sudan, on Wednesday defended China from criticism that it is not doing enough to use its economic influence over Khartoum to stop the violence in the Darfur region.

He said that the US sanctions-based approach was complemented, rather than undercut, by Beijing's "subtle diplomacy". "I think they may be the crucial actors. I think there's been a lot of China-bashing in the west. And I'm not sure, to be very frank with you, right now it's very helpful," Mr Natsios told a Senate hearing.

He stressed that much of the violence stemmed from the rebels, broken into 14 or so different groups. He said they were raping women from their own tribes, committing atrocities in one refugee camp they controlled and looting aid convoys.

"It's anarchy. The government has lost control of large parts of the province now," Mr Natsios said, noting the conflict was also destabilising neighbouring Chad and the Central African Republic.

Senator Joseph Biden, the Democratic chairman of the foreign relations committee, who is also running for president, expressed his exasperation with the Bush administration and Sudan's stone-walling, and declared that now was the time to take military action.

"If the president were asking me and I were his secretary of state, I would use American force now," he said. Mr Natsios said he was willing to discuss military options in a closed session.

The special envoy made no mention of the military co-operation agreement be-tween China and Sudan that was officially announced in Beijing last week during a visit by Sudan's armed forces chief of staff. China buys about two-thirds of Sudan's oil exports.

The Bush administration, under pressure from Congress to match its rhetoric with action over what it has denounced as "genocide" in Darfur, has put on hold its sanctions proposals – both its own unilateral plans and those before the United Nations – for two to four weeks at the request of Ban Ki-moon, UN secretary-general, to give diplomacy more time.

Mr Natsios said there were signs that China was being more "aggressive" in urging Khartoum to accept a UN peacekeeping force in Darfur, where an estimated 200,000 people have lost their lives since 2003.

He believed China's diplomacy might have been the "critical factor" that led Sudan to reverse its position in talks this week and accept the "heavy support package" for the African Union mission already in Darfur.

Copyright 2007 Financial Times
 

Spike

Banned Idiot
Found some numbers on Chinese military in Africa. Quite modest is seems.
Military backs China's Africa adventure
By Susan Puska
Asia Times

Of all the elements of growing national power China now wields to promote its national interests in Africa, its military's role raises the most anxiety. Beijing's Africa strategy to promote China's economic (resource access and trade) and political (one-China recognition) interests explicitly tie in the People's Liberation Army (PLA) to support overall peace and security for its interests in Africa.

The strategy tasks the PLA with conducting high-level and technological military cooperation and exchanges, training African military personnel and "support[ing] defense and army building" in African countries. [1] Additionally, the PLA and police support China's Africa strategy through participation in United Nations Peacekeeping Operations (PKO), and non-traditional missions, such as combating terrorism, small-arms smuggling, drug trafficking and transnational economic crimes.

Consequently, the PLA now maintains a growing military presence on the African continent. Estimates range from approximately 1,200 soldiers, including PKO forces, to more than 5,000. [2] Its military-to-military contacts extend throughout the continent, reaching at least 43 countries to provide a network of military relations from which to shape its future role in Africa.

Defense attache representation
Chinese Embassy defense attache offices throughout Africa provide the diplomatic foundation for China's military contacts. Accredited defense attaches link the PLA to host country militaries. Defense attache duties vary, but as a minimum, they report on local matters from a military and/or security perspective and facilitate contacts with local armed forces. China currently maintains bilateral diplomatic military relations with at least 25 African countries, spread across the main regions of the continent.

At least 14 of the 107 Chinese military attache offices worldwide are in African countries. Collectively, these offices hold at least 30 accredited military officers, in addition to support personnel. They are located in Algeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Egypt, Ethiopia, Liberia, Libya, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nigeria, Sudan, Tunisia, Zambia and Zimbabwe.

In Beijing, 18 African countries maintain permanent defense attache offices. [2] Six of these offices were directly reciprocal: Algeria (which has continuously maintained a defense attache in Beijing since January 1971), Egypt, Namibia, Nigeria, Sudan, Zambia, and Zimbabwe. The 11 remaining countries that do not have known Chinese resident equivalents in Africa include Burundi, Cameroon, Republic of Congo, Ivory Coast (Cote d'Ivoire), Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Mali, Niger, South Africa and Tanzania.

Since 1985, China has almost doubled the number of defense attache offices worldwide from 59 to 107. [4] In Africa, however, the number of Chinese defense attache offices increased quite modestly from only nine to 14, maintaining an average of 15% of all of China's attache offices over the past 20 years. In contrast, China has a defense attache office in practically every capital in Europe.

Reported defense-to-military activities
China divides its primary bilateral military activities with foreign countries into four main categories: [5]

1. Major military exchanges. Between 2001 and 2006, Chinese military leaders visited Africa over 30 times, touring virtually every country that recognizes China. These visits often included more than one country, but several of the countries received multiple stopovers by Chinese military leaders.

Of these, Egypt, by far, welcomed the highest number of Chinese senior delegations - 15 during the course of these six years. Additionally, China's still rare naval ship visits have included stops in Africa. Rear Admiral Huang Jiang led the first PLA Navy (PLAN) ship visit, consisting of the Shenzhen, China's newest Luhai-class guided missile destroyer at the time, and the Nancang supply ship to Africa in July 2000. A 2002 naval ship visit by a fleet composed of a guided missile destroyer, the Qingdao, and a supply ship, the Taicang, included Egypt.

2. Chinese bilateral security consultations. Between 2001 and 2006 China conducted 110 bilateral security-related meetings and consultations. The number of biannual bilateral defense-related talks jumped from 33 between 2003 and 2004, to 46 during 2005 and 2006. Despite this overall increase, South Africa is the only African country that holds security consultations with China. [6] South Africa and China initiated the Meeting of the Sino-South African Defense Committee on April 2003 in Pretoria, where Xiong Guangkai, deputy chief of the General Staff, represented the Chinese. Since then, South Africa and China have had three subsequent meetings that have alternated between South Africa and China. The most recent meeting was held in December 2006 in Pretoria.

3. Joint exercises. Between August 2005 and December 2006, China conducted joint military exercises (including maritime search and rescue and counter-terrorism scenarios) with India, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan, Thailand, Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), and the United States. No African states have yet been included in the joint exercises with China, either bilaterally or multilaterally.

4. Peacekeeping operations. China has participated in United Nations PKOs since 1990. [7] As of March, China ranked 13th as a contributor of military and police to UN missions worldwide. Its support includes 1,572 troops, 63 military observers and 174 police. During this same period, Pakistan ranked first with over 10,000 personal; the United States ranked 43rd. [8] China's largest contributions include the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (343), and three of the six African PKO missions:

United Nations Mission in the Sudan (UNMIS) - Established in March 2005 to support the implementation of the January 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement between the Government of Sudan and the Sudan People's Liberation Movement/Army. It was expanded in August 2006 to include the implementation of the Darfur Peace Agreement. UNMIS provides some humanitarian assistance, as well as protection and promotion of human rights. China contributes 446 of the 8,766 soldiers, nine of the 662 police, and 14 of the 599 military observers.

United Nations Operation in Cote d'Ivoire (UNOCI) - Established in April 2004 to facilitate the implementation of the peace agreement signed by Ivorian parties in January 2003. China contributes seven out of the 200 military observers. UNOCI also includes 7,854 soldiers and 1,187 police.

United Nations Mission in Liberia (UNMIL) - Established in September 2003 to support the Comprehensive Peace Agreement, it protects UN staff, facilities and civilians; supports humanitarian and human rights activities; and assists in national security reform, including national police training and the formation of a restructured military. China contributes 565 out of the13,841 soldiers, 18 of the1,201 police and three of the 214 military observers.

United Nations Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUC) - Established in November 1999 to support the implementation of the Lusaka Accord, its current mission is to carry out disarmament, demobilization, repatriation, resettlement and reintegration. The final phase of its mission, concurrently in process, is to facilitate transition to "credible" elections. China contributes 218 of the 16,594 soldiers and 12 of the 713 military observers. The mission also has 1,029 police.

United Nations Mission in Ethiopia and Eritrea (UNMEE) - Established in July 2000 to verify the ceasefire agreement between Eritrea and Ethiopia, brokered by Algeria and the Organization of African Unity. China contributes seven of the 202 military observers. The mission also has 1,594 soldiers.

United Nations Mission for the Referendum in Western Sahara (MINURSO) - The mission was set up in September 1991 to monitor the ceasefire between the Government of Morocco and the Frente Polisario, and to organize and conduct a referendum on the territory's status. The UN mandate was recently extended until October 2007. [9] China contributes 13 of the 195 military observers. MINURSO also includes 28 soldiers and six police.

Other Chinese military activities in Africa
China's military-military activities in Africa also include working-level professional contacts, such as military aid and assistance to local militaries in the form of "donations" and technical support, training and exchanges; arms-sales related support; and professional education. Military cooperation in Africa has almost exclusively focused on bilateral cooperation, but in 2003 China participated in a multilateral military environmental protection conference hosted by South Africa, which may indicate a future direction for multilateral military engagement in selected areas. [10]

China's military-to-military activities in Africa, including defense attache presence, naval ship visits, arms sales and other missions to support military cooperation can be expected to expand to keep pace with China's growing national interests throughout the region. An increase in its diplomatic military representation and overall presence may inadvertently be encouraged by the establishment of the new United States Africa Combatant Command, if China feels a new combatant command impinges on China's security interests in the region.

If China's limited number of defense attache offices in Africa does grow, the potential list of countries would likely begin among the 11 that have already established offices in Beijing, but lack a reciprocal counterpart in Africa, as discussed above. Resource access and associated security needs would likely influence any expansion of China's defense attache offices in Africa. Four of the six countries that China currently maintains reciprocal, resident defense attache offices with - Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria and Sudan - are among those countries that China has interests in petroleum and other resources. Gabon and Equatorial Guinea, which are among the main producers of petroleum in Africa and already have established defense attache offices in Beijing, would be logical additions.

Military and naval ship visits are also expected to develop. China may enter into agreements with African countries beyond South Africa to establish bilateral defense consultations, and joint exercises under the framework of anti-terrorist or maritime safety scenarios could be an outcome of China's increased military capability and overall interest in Africa.

Finally, China will increasingly be challenged to respond to security threats to Chinese property and personnel in the region that may necessitate a re-evaluation of the role of China's military. The recent kidnappings and killings of Chinese workers in Ethiopia and Nigeria painfully demonstrated that China can no longer depend on local security forces to protect its oil interests (personnel and facilities) in areas such as Ethiopia and the Niger Delta.

Potential attacks by local insurgents, criminals, and even terrorists, demand skilled defense practitioners. The PLA could provide this either directly and openly in tailored military units with or without Chinese police force participation, through quasi-military or "outsourced" rent-a-soldier security entities that would be manned by trained soldiers who may retain loose association with the PLA as demobilized soldiers, or through other mechanisms based on negotiations with the host African countries.

Implications for the US
While China's military-to-military contacts with Africa have been quite modest, anxiety over China's activities in Africa exceeds the present extent of military activities for several reasons. Among these are questions about China's future military capabilities and its intentions in the region. China's arms sale practices, particularly to Sudan, demonstrate its willingness to look the other way when sovereign states commit genocide and persecution of its citizenry, if it serves China's national interests - in this case, access to oil. Even as China has responded to international pressure to nudge the Sudanese regime toward the settlement of the Darfur crisis, it is woefully late.

Furthermore, China's newfound support for the resolution of the Darfur tragedy may be short-lived and ineffective, merely a tactical move to counter the bad press that could overshadow the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. There is certainly no indication China will fundamentally reassess its indiscriminant arms sale practices in Sudan.

Although China is not alone in placing its national interests and growing demand for resources above the interests of African states, China's modern self-identity as a leader of the developing world moralistically insists it could never exploit weaker states. As its power and wealth grow, however, China will be increasingly judged for its actions.

The implications for United States interests in Africa need not lead to a confrontational competition in response to China's growing military profile. There is plenty of work to do in Africa, and the Africans themselves will ultimately decide what courses to follow. China has a constructive role to play in Africa and provides both a useful model for the successful modernization of a developing country, and also has a long-standing relationship, including military-to-military contacts, with many nations on the continent.

The United States and others will do well to continue to press China on issues of concern, such as Darfur, but also to look for opportunities to work bilaterally and multilaterally with China and its military in the region.
 
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