China's strategy in Afghanistan.


Overbom

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That's a stretch. China had troops in Afghanistan for almost 100 years during the Tang Dynasty, it was just called Anxi back then.
Obviously the 1 million thing was to emphasise how important is for China to stay out of it

The international environment was different during the Tang Dynasty and now. What could happen then, can't (or shouldnt) happen now
 

Arnies

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Never in a million years should China alone have any troops inside Afghanistan except as part of a SCO or UN peacekeeping force.

It doesn't have to be troops but security personel for the workers that is what I mean.. No hell fuking way to UN or SCO. IEA will rather prefer in such conditions to postpone any extaction of Lithum with China or perhaps enlist other players such as Turkey or Indonesia
 

Mohsin77

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I highly suggest that you take the time to either read this researcher's book (Command Culture) because his main thesis pretty much echoed most of the persistent theme on these videos extrapolated by Thomas Rick's (I have the book of the failure of Generalship) and Malcolm Gladwell.

I also embedded his talk and presentation on YouTube here. His book was on the U.S. Chief Of Staff defense reading list.



Good find. Unfortunately, this book is not pirated on Libgen, I may have to actually buy a paper copy lolz =/ I haven't done that in a while.

I'm listening to the lecture though, it's good so far. I think the comparison of Marshall and Moltke the Elder is a bit unfair. Moltke was the architect of the 1871 war plan, whereas Marshall was basically only a manager. But I like the focus on the military education system that bred good officers from an early age and junior ranks, instead of the mythologization of the Prussian/German Officer Corps itself. That's a very good point.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Good find. Unfortunately, this book is not pirated on Libgen, I may have to actually buy a paper copy lolz =/ I haven't done that in a while.

I'm listening to the lecture though, it's good so far. I think the comparison of Marshall and Moltke the Elder is a bit unfair. Moltke was the architect of the 1871 war plan, whereas Marshall was basically only a manager. But I like the focus on the military education system that bred good officers from an early age and junior ranks, instead of the mythologization of the Prussian/German Officer Corps itself. That's a very good point.
You can grab a digital copy on check your p.m.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Good find. Unfortunately, this book is not pirated on Libgen, I may have to actually buy a paper copy lolz =/ I haven't done that in a while.

I'm listening to the lecture though, it's good so far. I think the comparison of Marshall and Moltke the Elder is a bit unfair. Moltke was the architect of the 1871 war plan, whereas Marshall was basically only a manager. But I like the focus on the military education system that bred good officers from an early age and junior ranks, instead of the mythologization of the Prussian/German Officer Corps itself. That's a very good point.
But I like the focus on the military education system that bred good officers from an early age and junior ranks, instead of the mythologization of the Prussian/German Officer Corps itself. That's a very good point.
Which dovetails perfectly to what Petraeus nut hugger a.k.a. Thomas Ricks has written about and talked extensively on his book and presentations/lectures all over the country.

But such profound readjustments can't and will not happen unless the American military suffers it's first humiliating defeat; a defeat where it can't be pinned on lack of resources, lack of preparations or even on their rudderless and vision less politicians both the civilian and military personnel.

The American way of conducting war isn't going to nudge into the direction that both Ricks and the German academic/military historian have talked about since the institution itself believes in it's unrivaled and peerless superiority over it's rivals. Although, am not optimistic that these venerable institutions would actually do a proper reform based on it's track record of failures.
 

Abominable

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It doesn't have to be troops but security personel for the workers that is what I mean.. No hell fuking way to UN or SCO. IEA will rather prefer in such conditions to postpone any extaction of Lithum with China or perhaps enlist other players such as Turkey or Indonesia
The moment Chinese soldiers set foot in Afghanistan you can bet the US will start funding and arming a terrorist group in Afghanistan to kill them.

Investing in Afghanistan may be a good thing for both China and Afghanistan, but the onus is on the Afghan government to provide safety within their own borders.
 

Overbom

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Investing in Afghanistan may be a good thing for both China and Afghanistan, but the onus is on the Afghan government to provide safety within their own borders.
Exactly. If the Afghan Gov cant provide safety for investment then all this talk about BRI, CPEC, Chinese mining etc is all meaningless.

The Afghan Gov should realise that security is everything. Security, security, security
 

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