China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

by78

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Close-up images of J-16's engine nozzles.

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manqiangrexue

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According to this guy, J16 flight control system is based on J10, which surpassed Su-27 and Su-30 by at least 2 generation gaps. Not even Su-57 can match it.
Is he implying that J-10's flight control system was updated to something superior to those on the Su-57 during the later iterations or is he saying that J-10A's flight control system is superior to Su-57's? The latter is a pretty outstanding claim.
 

minusone

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Is he implying that J-10's flight control system was updated to something superior to those on the Su-57 during the later iterations or is he saying that J-10A's flight control system is superior to Su-57's? The latter is a pretty outstanding claim.
He didn't clarify about that, just state that the flight control system of J16 was originated from J10.
 

T-U-P

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Is he implying that J-10's flight control system was updated to something superior to those on the Su-57 during the later iterations or is he saying that J-10A's flight control system is superior to Su-57's? The latter is a pretty outstanding claim.
From that sentence alone, I would interpret it as
1) J16's system originated from J10, meaning it's on a whole different path than Russia FCS
2) J16's system is 2 generations ahead of Su-27/30, and is ahead of Su-57.

I don't think he's claiming J-10A's system is better than Su-57. However, we are talking about FCS here, not avionics. Control laws for canard-delta configuration *could* be more complex than conventional layout...

But yes, what is his credential?
 

by78

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According to this guy, J16 flight control system is based on J10, which surpassed Su-27 and Su-30 by at least 2 generation gaps. Not even Su-57 can match it.

Ummmmm who is he and what are his affiliations with the Chinese military industry?

From that sentence alone, I would interpret it as
1) J16's system originated from J10, meaning it's on a whole different path than Russia FCS
2) J16's system is 2 generations ahead of Su-27/30, and is ahead of Su-57.

I don't think he's claiming J-10A's system is better than Su-57. However, we are talking about FCS here, not avionics. Control laws for canard-delta configuration *could* be more complex than conventional layout...

But yes, what is his credential?

Here's his
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, where he lectures on natural gas prices, unipolar vs multipolar world, self-driving tech, bilateral trade with ASEAN, Mongolian railways, grain production, the qualitative difference between 4K and 8K videos on a small phone screen, so on and on and on.

When someone sprinkles his saliva on such a diverse range of sundry topics, he is, in all probability, a stupid poser and a useless windbag who doesn't know what he's talking about, but he keeps on talking for the sake of talking because he has absolutely no operational control over his mouth.

In other words, he's perfect for Reddit.
 
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Deino

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Interesting sight ... for the first time a PLAAF J-16 was seen together with a RuAF Tu-95MS from yesterday's "long-distance joint flight" of Russian Tu-95MS and PLAAF H-6KG bombers, which were accompanied by two J-16s.

Looks like 61389 (or 61388) from the 7th Air Brigade at Jiaxing AB (?)

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