China Flanker Thread II


Blitzo

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This is simply a Naval J-11BH with low visibility paint, not the so-called J-11BGH.

If that was the case then we'd see a low profile roundel too.

And, for other aircraft in the PLA we've never seen them change the colour of the radome alone as part of a repaint scheme.
The low profile serial number is something we've seen since 2020.

.... And this modification is also entirely consistent with the changes seen on J-11BG for PLAAF as well.





But we know that both J-16 and J-10 B/C moved the airspeed tube to other locations, so shifting the tube shouldn't be a big hassle, so why did J-11BGH not use J-16's very mature solution and instead go through the trouble of modifying the radar design?



It is a hassle, because the J-16 and J-10B/C were new build airframes as well as major variants of aircraft themselves, and thus among other modifications, moving the air data probe was also done.



The J-11BG/BHG are upgrades to existing in service airframes. So the real question should be, why should we even expect them to move the air data probe on an aircraft that's only getting an upgrade?



And as I've mentioned before, J-11BG/BHG is far from the world's only fighter type with a nose tip probe that has an AESA.

Older F-16s upgraded to F-16V (which includes an AESA in the nose) retain the same nose tip probe as well.

Dispense with this idea that "nose tip air data probe = incompatible with AESA fit".
 

Deino

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This is simply a Naval J-11BH with low visibility paint, not the so-called J-11BGH.


Nope ... in the same series of images a few were still seen with the black radome. So - at least by our commonly agreed term - if a J-11B has a light-grey radome it is a BG, then is this J-11BH a BHG or BGH!
 

Scchwerter_

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Nope ... in the same series of images a few were still seen with the black radome. So - at least by our commonly agreed term - if a J-11B has a light-grey radome it is a BG, then is this J-11BH a BHG or BGH!
Deino I'm no expert on flankers or ws-10, but is it true that the J-11BH in that picture has a relatively newer variant of the ws-10 judging from how the nozzles connect to the fuselage?

IMO the nozzle in the pic is more akin to what the earlier batches of J-16 uses as opposed to what the J-11B/BH initially entered service with, and possibly suggesting some kind of mlu with new engines fitted (AKA along the lines of J-11BG being J-11B receiving mlu and getting new avionics, possibly radar and engines)

edit: nvm I think I've got my nozzles mixed up
 

Confusionism

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Now that several SU-35's has been shot down over Ukraine. The Americans and her allies now get to study the fighter jet and her subsystems up close.

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No, I don't think the Americans can get much important information out of this pile of wreckage, and Su-35 doesn't have much technology for the Americans to be curious about, and I'm afraid they should get more from the Egyptians, if they do.
 

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