Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

Blitzo

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To be honest, my initial reaction was like 'eh?', pretty uncanny at first glance since I never expected the top intake to be so 'exposed' like that. Wouldn't it have much affect on frontal stealth?

And what about what seems to be the metal rim crossing midway? Does that imply further affects to stealth? Perhaps, it would be embedded well into the glass for a smooth precision work like a regular full glass canopy that its negligable.

The "exposure" of the top intake from the frontal aspect isn't as important as whether the path of the intake to the engine face is suitably serpentine and obscured, and based on the positioning of the top intake, the geometry of the airframe, and the positioning of the engines (from all the other pics we have of J-36), it should be suitably quite entrenched indeed.

The metal middle frame in the canopy isn't necessarily a big deal -- after all, J-20S as a twin seater has an "exposed" metal frame between the front and rear pilot's canopy glass as well. Not to mention of course, B-2, and B-21 both have very significant "exposed" frames between their canopy/cockpit glass panes.
If anything, J-36's relatively small middle frame between the left and right canopy glass just goes to show how huge the canopy for this aircraft is for both of the pilots -- which will offer much more visibility than say, on B-2 or B-21, which is to be expected given J-36's role is primarily A2A, and being able to achieve as much Mk1 eyeball visibility as practically possible is still beneficial even for future aerial warfare concepts.
 

SanWenYu

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Why is the bump in front of the torso intake missing? The bump is quite obvious in the side view photos so far. And didn't we say such a thick vertical reenforcement bar in the middle of the windshield very detrimental to stealth?
 

Blitzo

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Why is the bump in front of the torso intake missing? The bump is quite obvious in the side view photos so far. And didn't we say such a thick vertical reenforcement bar in the middle of the windshield very detrimental to stealth?

Considering the quality of the image, chances are the DSI bump is there but it is just not visible.

As for the middle frame between both sides of the canopy, see my previous post 3231 (posted only a minute before your post, so understandably not readable)
 

siegecrossbow

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Why is the bump in front of the torso intake missing? The bump is quite obvious in the side view photos so far. And didn't we say such a thick vertical reenforcement bar in the middle of the windshield very detrimental to stealth?

I think it is just the shadow effect from the upper intake. As for reinforcement bar, F-117 had like six of them around the canopy. I don’t see what the issue is if properly treated.
 

taxiya

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To anyone concerns the middle bar of the canopy. Metal as a meterial is NOT a problem itself for stealth, it is the shape, angle of metal joint, length of straight lines and their relative angle to incoming radio waves matters. Burying metal piece inside/behind glass makes no difference because glass is transparant to radio wave. Coating the glass to reduce radio wave is the same as coating exposed metal bar with RAM paint.

There are lots of misconceptions on the internet about stealth such as metal is bad, composite is good. In fact composite is radio wave transparent without RAM or embedding metal wires. Untreated/coated composite exposes interior metal skeleton, it is probably worse than full metal skin.
 
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