Change of tune

Roger604

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cdromer said:
In fact, nowaday the CCP is anything but a communist party. Only the first "C" is important, and does have some meaning to us. We Chinese have thrown away the ideological things decades ago. Bascially, only the Chinese traditions and economic conditions are the main concern of the government and the people, and this government is far from a "communist" one. It's sure not a "democratic" one, we all know it, but who cares. We don't need revelotions or wars to change the CCP or the government, they've already been completely changed in recent 20 years through the "reform", combining a still rising living standard to all of us, then what about the next 20 years? In recent 20 years, China doesn't fight a war with anybody, most Chinese live better, China remains united and peace with prosperity and some achievements. We don't need to shoot Iraqis for oil, we have no soldiers overseas, Muslims don't hate us, there's no IED on my road to the office, it's a happy thing, so what else, why do we need a dramatic change like overthrowing the government?:confused:

Talking about myself, 20 years ago, I even didn't know what a phone or a TV looks like.:nana: Today I have cellphones, laptops, and already bought a house like some other 10 million Chinese guys. I just couldn't imagine this 20 years ago. If somebody claims that this has nothing to do with the CCP or the government, he is wrong.

Hi, in my opinion the greatest threat to China right now is being brainwashed by western media and ideology.

The west (most specifically the US) presents itself as the only legitimate ideology and the most advanced culture, and uses that justification to impose the ideology and culture on the rest of the world.

Granted that China needs to reform itself greatly to be more prosperous and advanced, but with these reforms come the threat that people will become brainwashed by the west.

We all know how biased and ridiculous western portrayals of the CCP are. But China does not yet have the "soft power" to counter this. America has Hollywood, multi-nationals, etc.

In my opinion, the solution is nationalism. If we are united in our devotion to peaceful development and advancement, we would not need to fear criticism of the government, or corrupt officials, because it is healthy constructive criticism, not subsersion from pawns of western powers or those who are brainwashed by western fantasies of its "universal culture".
 

Schumacher

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I think the article is quite accurate in that the quality of Indian & Japanese forces are above that of China, which I don't find surprising. Both India & Japan rely much more on imports from the best, Russia & US or both which is what India will do soon. China relies much more on domestic development. Even when they import from Russia, they insist on tech transfer which makes deals harder to come by. I'm quite confident China's strategy is the better one in the long term but it also means they have to be patient which is not too bad considering they don't face any immediate threat that they need to pay very high price for off the shelves Russian goods immediately.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Japan has domestic tech for fighter jet engine yet, whereas China will have WS-10 soon. If Japan is satisfied with getting the engines from US which are definitely among the best, then that's their choice.

I don't see anything new in the tone of the article. Most anti-China forces in the US are torn between their desire to portray China as a fearsome foe while at the same time cannot resist their natural bias that sees China, or indeed any other non-western nations, as backward & only capable of copying.

Another poster talked abt lobbying the US to make a better image. Lobbying in the Washington does help, but not by much if you're seen as strategic competitor as US sees China. If there's indeed any change in US tactics towards China, most likely it's due to the US realizing the previous ways were not working.
Do not kid yourself thinking the recent warming of India-US ties is the result of Indian lobby. Nor should one believe the recent lifting of the ban on US military sales to Indonesia is the result of better human rights situation there. Like a lot of US foreign policies these days, the main consideration in these 2 cases is the same. Here's a clue, the country's name starts with 'C' & it's not Canada. :)
 
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Indianfighter

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Quoted by MIGleader:
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how can it claim india has a superior af and navy to china? while inida may wield talwars, mkis, and mig-29s, china has aircraft and ships comparable or even better than those of inida. the japan assesment is pretty accurate as far as it goes.
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It is true, that India possesses superior quality of aircraft and naval ships as compared to China.

The specifications of the Su-30 MKI are better as compared to the Su-30 MKK of China. The Su-30 MKI is the most advanced 4.5th gen fighter aircraft in Asia, as of now.
The Dhruv helicopter is the most advanced helicopter in the 5.5 ton class. It has the world record for highest altitude climb.

The production of the LCA jets shall be commenced in June 2006. Its specifications are almost equivalent to a Block 52 F-16, with the exception of combat-radius.

The Brahmos supersonic cruise missile has superior specifications than the Moskit missiles of China.

The Indian Navy is to acquire Admiral Gorshkov Aircraft carrier that shall carry 30 MiG-29 Class C jets, Kamov helicopters and 20 Naval LCAs. Indian Navy has already signed a deal with France for the acquisition of Scorpene submarines, and the process of building a nuclear powered submarine is underway as of now.

The Dhanush SLBM was successfully test-fired a few days ago.

Besides, the Trishul SAM employs 3-beam guidance technology,(not employed in any SAM) which makes jamming of the signals difficult. Similarly, the Nag anti-tank missile are 3rd generation missiles, which are superior to the HJ-8 (2nd gen) anti-tank missile of China.

Thus, qualitatively, Indian weapon systems are superior to that of Chinese weapon systems. Quantitatively, Chinese armed forces are superior to the Indian armed forces.
 

Gollevainen

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Indianfighter and MigLeader, dare not even think of getting into IN vs. PLAN depate!!
 

MIGleader

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indian fighter, you missed alot of key points, but i wont get into them(as i have no intention of getting gollevainen angry). ill pm you perhaps.
the point is, the guy making this article didnt know anything.
 
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patriot

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Here's a good detailed article on China's navy
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By BRAD KAPLAN

Capt. Brad Kaplan, USN, is the U.S. Naval Attaché to China.



When assessing China's military potential, Western and Asian observers often tend either to view the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) as an ominous storm cloud on the horizon or to casually dismiss it as a "paper tiger" faced with significant modernization and operational problems. On the one hand, there is no shortage of commentary reporting the PLAN's acquisition of sophisticated Russian-built military ships and aircraft, improvements in indigenous production, and development of a modern Marine Force. These articles point with increasing alarm to China's drive for naval domination on both sides of the Malacca Strait, the South China Sea, and Taiwan Strait--and for extending a menacing naval presence far out into the Pacific. Other articles, pointing to aging PLAN combatant aircraft, surface units, and submarines--and to problems with indigenous production programs--maintain that China's Navy is floundering, and that it does not pose a credible threat to neighboring countries.

A more balanced assessment of the PLAN's capabilities today and its potential tomorrow may be derived from a better understanding of its mission, the present state of its ships and aircraft, and its ongoing modernization program. China's best military units--estimated at approximately 10 percent of its overall forces--are being modernized at a steady pace, in keeping with the country's ongoing economic development. As Lt. Gen. Patrick M. Hughes, then-director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee on 2 February 1999, these select forces will have achieved a reasonably high level of proficiency in 1980s-style maneuver warfare by 2010. They will be well equipped with theater-range missiles, "late Cold War equivalent" tanks and artillery, more advanced diesel and third-generation nuclear-powered submarines, and approximately 20 new surface combatant warships.

An Evolving Mission

Historically, China's Navy has been responsible for seaward and coastal defense. During the 1950s and 1960s, the PLAN focused on defending China's mainland from amphibious assault--first from the perceived U.S. threat and, later, from the perceived threat from the Soviet Union as its relationship with that country soured. Naval acquisitions were almost solely from existing Soviet systems and platforms, and defensive tactics were largely modeled after the Soviet example. During these years, the PLA developed a large fleet of relatively inexpensive (and thus expendable) missile boats, diesel submarines, and conventional bombers, which could be used in a mass attack on amphibious units and their escorts. The few destroyer-sized combatants acquired by the PLAN during this period were modeled primarily after World War II-era Russian designs.

In recent years, the PLAN's maritime mission has evolved from a role of static coastal defense to one of "active offshore defense." In this capacity, the PLAN can be used both as a tactical force and to support strategic national defense. The objectives of this new strategy are to assert China's role as a regional maritime power, to protect coastal economic regions and maritime interests, and to optimize the Navy's operations for national defense. The PLAN's responsibilities now include capture and defense of islands, and protection and blockade of sea-lanes of communication. Moreover, the PLAN is increasingly viewed by senior PLA leadership as integral to resolution of the Taiwan issue--should force be required--and for safeguarding China's "Xisha" and "Nansha" islands in the South China Sea. Finally, the PLAN is likely to be increasingly used as an instrument of overseas diplomacy through participation in goodwill cruises and port visits.

The PLAN's evolving strategy has been described in terms of two distinct phases. The strategy's first phase is for the PLAN to develop a "green water active defense strategy" capability. This "green water" generally is described as being encompassed within an arc swung from Vladivostok to the north, to the Strait of Malacca to the south, and out to the "first island chain" (Aleutians, Kuriles, Ryukyus, Taiwan, Philippines, and Greater Sunda islands) to the east. Analysts have assessed that the PLAN is likely to attain this green water capability early in the 21st century. Open-source writings also suggest that the PLAN intends to develop a capability to operate in the "second island chain" (Bonins, Guam, Marianas, and Palau islands) by the mid-21st century. In the future, the PLAN also may expand its operations to bases in Myanmar, Burma. These bases will provide the PLAN with direct access to the Strait of Malacca and the Bay of Bengal.

The People's Liberation Army Navy

PLAN command and control are highly centralized through its headquarters in Beijing. The headquarters staff, led by Vice Adm. Shi Yunsheng, provides oversight and direction through its logistics, equipment, repair, and political departments. The PLAN consists of three major fleets, a naval aviation arm, and marine units. Fleets are strategically located to the north in Qingdao, to the east in Ningbo, and to the south in Zhanjiang--providing the Chinese Navy with direct access to the Yellow Sea, Taiwan Strait, and South China Sea respectively. Each fleet consists of a number of major and minor bases, a naval air arm, and coastal-defense regions. South Sea Fleet units also include the Navy's Marine Force and its associated amphibious lift. Major surface combatant shipyards are located in Dalian, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Hudong. The Wuhan shipyard is responsible for conventional submarine construction, and nuclear-powered attack and ballistic-missile submarines are built at the Huladao shipyard.

The PLAN is manned by approximately 268,000 officers and men, in-cluding 28,000 coastal-defense forces, 25,000 naval air forces, and some 7,000 marines. Conscripts serve for two years. Although there are recent provisions for sailors to remain in service for up to 30 years, a cadre of senior enlisted personnel is not yet well developed. PLAN academic training remains fairly basic by Western standards; however, there is an increasing emphasis on improving the quality of training through the use of automatic data-processing resources. Large-scale fleet exercises are conducted several times each year, but there is little integration between naval air and surface units, and even less integration of naval operations with units of either the PLA Air Force or Army.

Marine Force

The PLAN's 7,000-man Marine Force is relatively well trained and equipped. The Marine Force's primary mission is to safeguard China's island holdings in the South China Sea during times of peace and to seize and defend islands in the South China Sea during times of war. The Marine Force also may be used for amphibious raids or for establishing beachheads in scenarios entailing a military confrontation with Taiwan. Chinese marines are supported by amphibious tanks and armored personnel carriers, howitzers, and multiple rocket launchers. Although the PLAN has approximately 60 tank landing ships and medium landing ships--including relatively capable Yuting, Yukan, and Yuliang classes--its aggregate lift capability is only about 5,000 to 10,000 troops.

This limited lift capability is inadequate to support any major amphibious operation. Recent improvements in the Navy's amphibious capabilities have included the acquisition of Jingsah-class air cushion vehicles. The PLAN also has shown an interest in developing a wing-in-ground-effect craft. These hybrid aircraft have the capability to cruise one meter above the water at speeds of 120 knots or more, and in the future such craft may prove capable of supporting amphibious operations. In the past, PLAN amphibious exercises demonstrated an attempt to coordinate aerial bombardment and naval gunfire support with assault waves, but this capability has not been well developed.

Naval Air Arm

Although the overall numbers are impressive on paper, the PLAN's aircraft are not considered to be first-line forces by Western analysts. Most PLAN aircraft are modeled after 20- to 30-year-old Russian designs, and they do not adequately support the air arm's missions in maritime patrol, antisubmarine warfare, and antiship strikes. The venerable H-6D Badger, with its two C-801 antiship missiles, presents the primary threat to surface units; however, its ability to locate and successfully engage targets independently beyond the radar horizon is questionable. Antiship-missile capability will be enhanced when the older H-6D is replaced with more capable FB-7 units.

A variation of the FB-7, the FBC-1, may prove to be the aircraft of choice when the PLAN begins to pursue development of a carrier aviation program seriously; however, the SU-27K Flanker also is a possible candidate. The capability to deliver iron bombs, rockets, and mines is provided by more than 700 attack aircraft, but with the exception of the modest numbers of newer J-8II Finback air-defense and air-superiority fighters these aircraft are not capable of effectively engaging surface ships equipped with modern air defense systems. Moreover, the PLAN has not yet demonstrated the capability to integrate these strike aircraft effectively into coordinated surface and air attacks. Maritime patrol aircraft, such as the BE-6, lack modern radar systems and sensors, and they do not pose a credible threat to today's submarines.

Submarine Force

Although it deploys a force of more than 60 submarines, PLAN units lag behind Western standards, and most weapons and sensor systems are based on older Russian technology. Lack of crew proficiency and hull quieting remain significant problems, and acoustic systems are two to three generations behind the world's first-line navies. All units can carry either torpedoes or mines, and the acquisition of Russian wake-homing torpedo technology has significantly improved the PLAN's submarine antisurface capabilities. As the PLAN modernizes, it is phasing out its fleet of more than 30 older Romeo-class conventional diesel submarines, replacing them with indigenously produced Ming- (19 units) and Song- (3 units) class, or Russian-built Kilo-class (type 877 and 636) submarines.

The PLAN's four Kilo units remain the submarine force's most capable boats, although the capability of their crews to operate them effectively in a tactical environment is suspect. The PLAN's continuing reliance on Russian-built hulls reflects the lack of success of indigenous Ming and Song designs, and this situation is likely to continue as the Navy pursues acquisition of advanced air-independent pro-pulsion systems. The PLAN is currently building a new Type 094 class of SSBN (nuclear-powered ballistic-missile submarine) to replace its single Xia-class unit. Analysts have assessed that the Type 094 SSBN is likely to be operational in the early part of the 21st century. It will be fitted with 16 launch tubes for the expanded range JL-2 sea-launched ballistic missile.

Progress in replacing aging Han-class nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs) with the new generation Type 093 SSN has been slow. The Type 093 SSNs have been compared in capability to the Russian Victor III SSN class. Given its slow progress with indigenously produced submarine units, as well as the prohibitively high construction costs, the PLAN is likely to emphasize acquisition of cheaper, more efficient, and less complex conventional submarines.

Surface Force

Although it has more than 400 fast-attack missile, patrol, and torpedo boats, the PLAN only has about 50 units that are considered major combatants by Western standards. Many of these obsolete small combatants are being re-placed by more capable C-801/802 missile-configured Houjian-, Houxin-, and Huangfen-class craft. During the 1980s, in a departure from its traditional practice of relying on Russian Navy designs, the PLAN aggressively sought to incorporate more advanced Western technology in its indigenous shipbuilding program. The acquisition of these technologies resulted in China's production of more advanced surface combatants during the past decade-- including a single 6,000-ton Luhai-class guided-missile destroyer (DDG), two Luhu-class DDGs (4,200 tons), and nine Jiangwei-class frigates (2,250 tons). These units are equipped with the HQ-7 or HQ-61 short-range air defense systems that likely will be replaced by a longer-range vertical-launch system within the next three to five years. These ships also have integrated tactical data systems, an improved antisubmarine warfare suite that includes embarked helicopters, and gas turbine propulsion.

Notwithstanding these improvements, the backbone of the PLA surface fleet remains its 16 aging Luda-class destroyers (3,250 tons) and 30 Jianghu-class frigates (1,425 tons) that are largely inadequate to meet the requirements of modern warfare. The planned acquisition of two 7,940-ton Russian-built Sovremenny-class DDGs in the 2000 to 2001 period will improve the PLAN's surface-combatant capabilities. These units are likely to be equipped with an advanced SAN-7 air-defense system, the KA-28 Helix Helicopter, and SSN-22 cruise-missile technology. The PLAN's HQ-61 and HQ-7 systems are based on the French Crotale land-based surface-to-air missile system, and they do not provide surface units with an effective area-defense capability. This deficiency makes PLAN surface units extremely vulnerable to air attack.

The Chinese Navy also is limited by other operational constraints. Although it has some capability to conduct shallow water antisubmarine warfare along its littoral and in the Yellow and South China Seas, the PLAN's antisubmarine warfare capability remains modest at best. Towed-array sonar and sono-bouy systems use technology that is more than 20 years old. The PLAN's damage-control capability remains limited, and few units have automatic fire-fighting or watertight door systems. Anticontamination systems also are considered to be quite basic by Western standards. The PLAN does field a broad spectrum of fairly sophisticated sea-skimming cruise missiles--based either on Russian Styx or on French Exocet technology--including the Hai Ying ("Sea Eagle") and the "Ying Ji" ("Eagle Strike") series. These missiles give the PLAN the capability to conduct extended-range antishipping strikes from air and surface units, as well as from coastal-defense sites. Despite this capability, the lack of effective over-the-horizon targeting sensors and coordinated targeting tactics limits the likely effectiveness of these systems.

The PLAN has more than 300 miscellaneous support ships, a total that includes approximately 120 mine warfare vessels, 49 replenishment ships, and a number of other survey, research, and support units. Although virtually all surface ships are configured for mine laying, the PLAN has a limited mine-laying capability, and mine-hunting and sweeping capabilities are even more basic. Nonetheless, the inventory of PLAN mines is impressive, and it includes advanced systems using sophisticated technology. If used in sufficient numbers, this inventory poses a significant threat to surface and submarine units operating along China's littoral, the Yellow Sea, Sea of Japan, Taiwan Strait, and South China Sea. The Navy's underway replenishment capability remains largely undeveloped, and the sustainability of PLAN units is likely to be severely limited by this shortcoming.

Modernization Programs

The director of the PLA's General Equipment Department, Gen. Cao Gangchuan, recently highlighted the increasing importance of China's Navy when he stated, "The PLAN shoulders the important mission of safeguarding the security of the territorial sea and is placed at the forefront of military [engagements]." Such support by senior PLA leadership has resulted in the PLAN being allocated a higher proportion of the defense budget in recent years, allowing it to pursue force modernization aggressively.

The PLAN's modernization program has consisted of three distinct aspects. First, PLAN leadership has focused on decommissioning the large numbers of outdated surface combatants, submarines, and aircraft acquired during the first 30 years of the country's existence. Second, the PLAN has aggressively sought advanced Western technology for improving its warfighting capability and the sustainability of its ships and aircraft. Third, the Chinese Navy has focused on improving training for both its officer and enlisted ranks and, in consonance with overarching PLA programs, developing a cadre of experienced noncommissioned officers.

As the PLAN modernizes its forces, it will continue to pursue the acquisition of advanced Western technology, while it attempts to develop indigenously produced modern units. PLAN air force units lack an aerial-refueling capability and modern radar systems capable of providing force protection or supporting over-the-horizon targeting. Surface ship requirements include acquisition of modern multiwarfare capable hulls, antisubmarine warfare systems and weapons, medium-range air defense systems, and electronic-warfare systems. Submarine modernization re-quirements include acquisition of improved quieting technology and replacement of aging conventional and nuclear-powered submarines.

The PLAN's drive for modernization has been most dramatically reflected in its ongoing development of the FB-7 bomber, new-generation conventional and nuclear-powered attack and ballistic missile submarines, acquisition of Russian-built Kilo-class diesel submarines, and the planned acquisition of Russian-built Sovremenny guided-missile destroyers. The PLAN also has relied heavily on Russian training for the officers and enlisted personnel who will man these units.

In the face of a post-Tianamen freeze on the export of U.S. weapons systems to China, the PLAN has relied heavily on the acquisition of advanced weapons and sensor systems from a number of other Western countries, including Israel and France. These acquisitions notwithstanding, the PLAN's eventual goal is to develop the indigenous capability to produce advanced naval units, weapons, and sensor systems. The lack of success of the PLAN's Ming- and Song-class diesel submarine programs, the slow progress in its development of next-generation attack and ballistic-missile nuclear-powered submarines, and the modest success of its newest indigenously produced Luhai-class guided-missile destroyer, suggest that China's Navy will continue to be largely dependent on Western technology well into the next decade.

In recent years, open-source writings have increasingly suggested that the PLAN is interested in the acquisition of an aircraft carrier. While acquisition of an aircraft carrier would improve the PLAN's power-projection capability, liaison with senior PLAN officials has indicated that the high costs associated with acquisition and maintenance are prohibitive. That having been said, Beijing leadership views the development of a carrier capability as a key step in increasing China's maritime prestige, and it is likely to exert pressure on the PLAN to acquire an aircraft carrier. Speculation as to when the PLAN may acquire an aircraft carrier varies from as early as 2004 to as late as 2020. Clearly, costs notwithstanding, if it is to assume a greater role as a regional maritime power, the PLAN must eventually make this investment. With this in mind, there is a possibility that the PLAN will pursue a more cost effective near-term solution through the acquisition of a vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) platform to support helicopter or VTOL aircraft operations.

A Force for the Future

The PLAN is not yet a significant naval power, even when viewed solely in a regional context. PLAN surface ships, submarines, and aircraft continue to lack the sophisticated weapons and sensor systems which characterize modern first-line naval units. These shortfalls limit the PLAN's present warfighting capabilities, and Chinese naval units are not yet up to the standard attained by the navies of Japan, the Republic of Korea, or even Taiwan. There also are significant tactical and doctrinal shortfalls that the PLAN has not adequately addressed. At-sea sustainability is modest, and the PLAN has not yet demonstrated the ability to conduct complex coordinated air and surface operations. The training of individual sailors remains basic by Western standards, and the PLAN lacks a corps of experienced noncommissioned officers. From the highest echelons of the service to individual commands, control is highly centralized, with little flexibility and creativity in subordinate ranks. These shortfalls will limit the ability of the PLAN to assert a significant regional naval presence for perhaps five to ten years, and the Navy is not likely to possess the longer reach associated with a maritime power-projection capability until well into the 21st century.

Having noted these shortfalls, however, the PLAN has made remarkable progress in its drive for modernization over the last decade. It has demonstrated the capability to deploy naval forces as far away as South America and Australia. It has acquired modern Russian-built diesel submarines and will receive two sophisticated Russian-built destroyers within the next two to three years. Discounting at present the likely acquisition of an aircraft carrier, China's Navy has improved its strike capabilities with the introduction of more cap-able F-8II aircraft, and it will further improve these capabilities when it places the FB-7 in service. It has continued to develop and maintain a sophisticated inventory of antisurface missiles and mines. The complexity and scope of fleet training have steadily increased, as have the capabilities of the PLAN's Marines. Further, improvements in individual training and the development of a corps of noncommissioned officers offers the potential to improve the sustainability and combat effectiveness of individual units significantly. These factors point to a Navy that will become increasingly capable of accomplishing its more prominent mission to safeguard China's maritime economic interests, to defend and perhaps expand interests in the South China Sea, and--ultimately, perhaps--to support the use of force against Taiwan.

When viewed in this context, it would be unwise to dismiss the PLAN as a "paper tiger." In the coming de-cades, the Chinese Navy presents the real likelihood of expanding its capabilities significantly. As it does so, it also is likely that Beijing will increasingly view the Navy as a mechanism to exert pressure on China's neighbors and to assert its influence regionally.

While it is unlikely to develop the capability to challenge the U.S. Navy for control of the seas, it is quite possible that the PLAN will, within two decades, develop a Navy with regional capabilities second only to Japan's. The degree to which these developments constitute "storm clouds on the horizon" will depend as much on U.S. diplomacy in the coming years as on the ability of the United States and its Pacific allies to maintain a strong regional-defense posture.




Cohen "Hopeful" On Military Ties


Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, asked in early November to confirm news media reports that the United States and China have agreed to resume military contacts, said he remained hopeful they could be resumed in the near future. "We do hope to reestablish the kind of military-to-military contacts that we had prior to the accident in Kosovo," Cohen said, "and they have indicated that they would like to reestablish these contacts." Cohen said that the United States had not made any specific plans for carrying out what have been China's expressed intentions to resume ties.

China suspended military contacts with the United States last May following NATO's accidental bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Yugoslavia, during Operation Allied Force. The commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Command (CINCPAC), Adm. Dennis C. Blair, said in September that the United States was ready to resume ties. "We are prepared to resume our military-to-military relations with the PLA [People's Liberation Army] when China is ready," Blair said. "It is in the interests of both our countries." Blair, the top U.S. military commander in the Pacific region, confirmed U.S. intentions during remarks to the Institute of Strategic and International Studies in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

U.S.-Chinese military relations did take a step forward in October. For the first time in nearly six months, a U.S. Navy warship conducted a port visit in Hong Kong. The Spruance-class destroyer USS O'Brien, stationed in Yokosuka, Japan, anchored in the former British colony on 31 October for a five-day stay. Capt. Eric Lindenbaum, O'Brien's commanding officer, sounded an upbeat note on U.S.-Chinese relations following his ship's arrival at the port city. "Our visit here is a positive and hopeful step towards normalization of our port calls to Hong Kong," he said. "After a busy deployment and many days at sea, this visit is a well-deserved time for rest and relaxation for our crew."

Prior to China's suspension of military contacts with the United States, between 60 and 70 U.S. Navy ships visited Hong Kong each year--a level that had remained unchanged since Hong Kong's return to Chinese rule in 1997. Since its suspension of military relations, China had approved two Navy requests for Hong Kong port calls by civilian-crewed ships of the Military Sealift Command, but the O'Brien was the first commissioned Navy ship to visit.

In a related development, Sen. Robert C. Smith (R-N.H.) has placed an indefinite hold on the nomination of retired Adm. Joseph W. Prueher--Blair's predecessor as CINCPAC--to be the U.S. ambassador to China. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously approved Prueher's nomination on 3 November, but Lisa Harrison, Smith's press secretary, told Sea Power that Smith had placed a hold on the full Senate's vote on the nomination. "He has a hold on the nomination," Harrison said, "until, at the very least, he [Smith] receives documents that he has requested from the Pentagon." Smith has been critical of the Clinton administration's policy on China. In a prepared statement, Smith said, "The administration's policy lacks a proper balance between our [U.S.] economic, political, and strategic interests; it seems to be motivated by economic considerations alone."

Testifying before the House Armed Services Committee last March, Blair said that China was not a military threat to the United States today and that it would be many years before the PLA fields capabilities to project significant power across the Pacific region. "Whether the Chinese armed forces ever become a threat to American interests will be a function of our overall relationship with China," Blair said in a prepared statement. "Mutual knowledge and respect on the part of the two armed forces will contribute in future years to growing military capabilities being used to promote peaceful development." Blair said that a measured military-to-military program would support U.S. goals of addressing the two country's mutual security concerns. GIP
 
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