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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I like to read comments sections to get an idea how Americans are thinking. Republicans aren't giving Biden anything so it is delusion on the part of the Democrats thinking they somehow believe they'll win them over with romanticism. When it comes to China, Biden thinks he can do what Trump did and he'll be more successful than Trump in getting support from Republicans. No, the Republicans spin how because Biden wanted the US out of Afghanistan and the Taliban wanted the US out of Afghanistan, they're working together. The same logic applies to China. They have a whole bunch of nicknames for Biden to make him a traitor working with China against the US. How do they come up with this? Because of Hunter Biden's business dealings with China? The Republicans are guilty too. Anything positive that happens with China, they blame it on Biden being traitorous to the US because he's suppose to be working against it not just letting it happen.

This is what Beijing doesn't seem to understand because they like to give out their list of grievances that they think are important to others as if like Western countries are going to take them seriously. All Beijing is doing is giving a list for them to work on completely denying them from China. The more importance Beijing puts on it, the more they're going to see China doesn't get it. Because they know these things are important to Beijing, the more they think they have power over China to get concessions. But Beijing still is stubborn like countries have to do it. There's a default answer for Chinese who somehow see this is the correct strategy by Beijing where like there's a Sun Tzusian plan afoot. Sino-US relations are its worse since the darkest days of the Cold War. Whatever plan is going on doesn't seem to be working. China might as well start working against what the US wants as they work against what China wants because it does look like Trump or someone like Trump is going to win the White House in the next Presidential election cycle and is Beijing going to continue on the same strategy that doesn't work as usual? Is Beijing going to throw a bone like they did giving Trump his phase one deal thinking they'll score points with Republicans? Biden has little time to change course with his China policy. If he doesn't, China might as well do what it can against US interests in the world and stop thinking as usual it'll win over them with things they can care less about. China can sign its soul away to them and they'll still won't be treated equally. Look at Japan and South Korea who have signed their soul away to the Devil. The only time they feel like one of them is in the context of how the US hates China more. Every other time they're treated as what place they've accepted which is at bottom of the ladder because Asians in the US still complain about racism and discrimination. They still complain about feeling invisible. Wouldn't Asians in the US feels the rewards first if they were truly treated equally? Instead you have an increase in attacks on Asians in general because of COVID-19 racism where they don't bother to single out just Chinese.

This is a cultural thing because I've noticed Asians, individually or ethnically, somehow think they'll personally be the exception that will win over Westerners and it'll be just them together against the rest of the world. And it's not like these people are the most Westernized or considered handsome or pretty. They're like the most ugliest Asians that are the antitheist of the ideal of model Westerners. Look at Hong Kongers thinking the West will go to war just for them. Or how about charges of genocide of Muslims by the West against China where the US does absolutely nothing but somehow Taiwanese think the US will go to war for them against China. What makes these people think they're so special? Do Taiwanese think they're more important than Uighurs or even Tibetans? I criticize Indians because they're only goal is beating China. China is not number one but they'll be satisfied in life forever when they just beat China not the US or the West. When I see nationalist bickering among Asians like with Japanese and South Koreans, it's all about who the US likes more who is then superior to the other. I see sometimes China is at that level because it seems all that China and the Chinese want from the US and the West is acceptance and respect... more than its neighbors. The West is full of petty hate and division that drives them. Why would anyone want their acceptance and respect? That's what I find what's wrong with Asians who find that important to have. That's what's going to hold back China if they value such petty things.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I like to read comments sections to get an idea how Americans are thinking. Republicans aren't giving Biden anything so it is delusion on the part of the Democrats thinking they somehow believe they'll win them over with romanticism. When it comes to China, Biden thinks he can do what Trump did and he'll be more successful than Trump in getting support from Republicans. No, the Republicans spin how because Biden wanted the US out of Afghanistan and the Taliban wanted the US out of Afghanistan, they're working together. The same logic applies to China. They have a whole bunch of nicknames for Biden to make him a traitor working with China against the US. How do they come up with this? Because of Hunter Biden's business dealings with China? The Republicans are guilty too. Anything positive that happens with China, they blame it on Biden being traitorous to the US because he's suppose to be working against it not just letting it happen.

This is what Beijing doesn't seem to understand because they like to give out their list of grievances that they think are important to others as if like Western countries are going to take them seriously. All Beijing is doing is giving a list for them to work on completely denying them from China. The more importance Beijing puts on it, the more they're going to see China doesn't get it. Because they know these things are important to Beijing, the more they think they have power over China to get concessions. But Beijing still is stubborn like countries have to do it. There's a default answer for Chinese who somehow see this is the correct strategy by Beijing where like there's a Sun Tzusian plan afoot. Sino-US relations are its worse since the darkest days of the Cold War. Whatever plan is going on doesn't seem to be working. China might as well start working against what the US wants as they work against what China wants because it does look like Trump or someone like Trump is going to win the White House in the next Presidential election cycle and is Beijing going to continue on the same strategy that doesn't work as usual? Is Beijing going to throw a bone like they did giving Trump his phase one deal thinking they'll score points with Republicans? Biden has little time to change course with his China policy. If he doesn't, China might as well do what it can against US interests in the world and stop thinking as usual it'll win over them with things they can care less about. China can sign its soul away to them and they'll still won't be treated equally. Look at Japan and South Korea who have signed their soul away to the Devil. The only time they feel like one of them is in the context of how the US hates China more. Every other time they're treated as what place they've accepted which is at bottom of the ladder because Asians in the US still complain about racism and discrimination. They still complain about feeling invisible. Wouldn't Asians in the US feels the rewards first if they were truly treated equally? Instead you have an increase in attacks on Asians in general because of COVID-19 racism where they don't bother to single out just Chinese.

This is a cultural thing because I've noticed Asians, individually or ethnically, somehow think they'll personally be the exception that will win over Westerners and it'll be just them together against the rest of the world. And it's not like these people are the most Westernized or considered handsome or pretty. They're like the most ugliest Asians that are the antitheist of the ideal of model Westerners. Look at Hong Kongers thinking the West will go to war just for them. Or how about charges of genocide of Muslims by the West against China where the US does absolutely nothing but somehow Taiwanese think the US will go to war for them against China. What makes these people think they're so special? Do Taiwanese think they're more important than Uighurs or even Tibetans? I criticize Indians because they're only goal is beating China. China is not number one but they'll be satisfied in life forever when they just beat China not the US or the West. When I see nationalist bickering among Asians like with Japanese and South Koreans, it's all about who the US likes more who is then superior to the other. I see sometimes China is at that level because it seems all that China and the Chinese want from the US and the West is acceptance and respect... more than its neighbors. The West is full of petty hate and division that drives them. Why would anyone want their acceptance and respect? That's what I find what's wrong with Asians who find that important to have. That's what's going to hold back China if they value such petty things.
China and the Chinese people today will be fine. Luckily many of them are not brainwashed by western media and culture to be subserviently to the West. The only one's that does that are the Christian weirdos. That's why so many Chinese travel outside of their country before the pandemic can see for themselves the hypocrisy and hatred of them and the CPC through quiet resentment from westerners and the coward white washed Chinese and Asians.
 

Michaelsinodef

Senior Member
Registered Member
I like to read comments sections to get an idea how Americans are thinking. Republicans aren't giving Biden anything so it is delusion on the part of the Democrats thinking they somehow believe they'll win them over with romanticism. When it comes to China, Biden thinks he can do what Trump did and he'll be more successful than Trump in getting support from Republicans. No, the Republicans spin how because Biden wanted the US out of Afghanistan and the Taliban wanted the US out of Afghanistan, they're working together. The same logic applies to China. They have a whole bunch of nicknames for Biden to make him a traitor working with China against the US. How do they come up with this? Because of Hunter Biden's business dealings with China? The Republicans are guilty too. Anything positive that happens with China, they blame it on Biden being traitorous to the US because he's suppose to be working against it not just letting it happen.

This is what Beijing doesn't seem to understand because they like to give out their list of grievances that they think are important to others as if like Western countries are going to take them seriously. All Beijing is doing is giving a list for them to work on completely denying them from China. The more importance Beijing puts on it, the more they're going to see China doesn't get it. Because they know these things are important to Beijing, the more they think they have power over China to get concessions. But Beijing still is stubborn like countries have to do it. There's a default answer for Chinese who somehow see this is the correct strategy by Beijing where like there's a Sun Tzusian plan afoot. Sino-US relations are its worse since the darkest days of the Cold War. Whatever plan is going on doesn't seem to be working. China might as well start working against what the US wants as they work against what China wants because it does look like Trump or someone like Trump is going to win the White House in the next Presidential election cycle and is Beijing going to continue on the same strategy that doesn't work as usual? Is Beijing going to throw a bone like they did giving Trump his phase one deal thinking they'll score points with Republicans? Biden has little time to change course with his China policy. If he doesn't, China might as well do what it can against US interests in the world and stop thinking as usual it'll win over them with things they can care less about. China can sign its soul away to them and they'll still won't be treated equally. Look at Japan and South Korea who have signed their soul away to the Devil. The only time they feel like one of them is in the context of how the US hates China more. Every other time they're treated as what place they've accepted which is at bottom of the ladder because Asians in the US still complain about racism and discrimination. They still complain about feeling invisible. Wouldn't Asians in the US feels the rewards first if they were truly treated equally? Instead you have an increase in attacks on Asians in general because of COVID-19 racism where they don't bother to single out just Chinese.

This is a cultural thing because I've noticed Asians, individually or ethnically, somehow think they'll personally be the exception that will win over Westerners and it'll be just them together against the rest of the world. And it's not like these people are the most Westernized or considered handsome or pretty. They're like the most ugliest Asians that are the antitheist of the ideal of model Westerners. Look at Hong Kongers thinking the West will go to war just for them. Or how about charges of genocide of Muslims by the West against China where the US does absolutely nothing but somehow Taiwanese think the US will go to war for them against China. What makes these people think they're so special? Do Taiwanese think they're more important than Uighurs or even Tibetans? I criticize Indians because they're only goal is beating China. China is not number one but they'll be satisfied in life forever when they just beat China not the US or the West. When I see nationalist bickering among Asians like with Japanese and South Koreans, it's all about who the US likes more who is then superior to the other. I see sometimes China is at that level because it seems all that China and the Chinese want from the US and the West is acceptance and respect... more than its neighbors. The West is full of petty hate and division that drives them. Why would anyone want their acceptance and respect? That's what I find what's wrong with Asians who find that important to have. That's what's going to hold back China if they value such petty things.
I don't think that China wants something like the acceptance or respect of the US, they are very much aware of the capitalists and how they work.

As for why they are so polite and even explicitly says various things (such as Taiwan is an internal affair, and they will not have any discussion about it etc.), more then just talking to the US it's also to everyone else.
And in general, the way one can describe China's behaviour on the international stage is being 'proffesional' (also for like the media etc.)
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
When I see nationalist bickering among Asians like with Japanese and South Koreans, it's all about who the US likes more who is then superior to the other. I see sometimes China is at that level because it seems all that China and the Chinese want from the US and the West is acceptance and respect... more than its neighbors. The West is full of petty hate and division that drives them. Why would anyone want their acceptance and respect? That's what I find what's wrong with Asians who find that important to have. That's what's going to hold back China if they value such petty things.
They act like this because they are too confident in themselves. Why do you think that all of them are so against China, and they constantly provoke it?

Its because China is too peaceful and they think thats because China is too weak.

This will only be solved when China can "show" to the world that it can be bloodthirsty as well. Thats how barbaric these people are

If they dont see China destroying another country, then will never respect it.

For example see the pathetic Japanese who were nuclear bombed and they fall over each other to please the US lol
And what about Vietnam....
 

emblem21

Major
Registered Member
I like to read comments sections to get an idea how Americans are thinking. Republicans aren't giving Biden anything so it is delusion on the part of the Democrats thinking they somehow believe they'll win them over with romanticism. When it comes to China, Biden thinks he can do what Trump did and he'll be more successful than Trump in getting support from Republicans. No, the Republicans spin how because Biden wanted the US out of Afghanistan and the Taliban wanted the US out of Afghanistan, they're working together. The same logic applies to China. They have a whole bunch of nicknames for Biden to make him a traitor working with China against the US. How do they come up with this? Because of Hunter Biden's business dealings with China? The Republicans are guilty too. Anything positive that happens with China, they blame it on Biden being traitorous to the US because he's suppose to be working against it not just letting it happen.

This is what Beijing doesn't seem to understand because they like to give out their list of grievances that they think are important to others as if like Western countries are going to take them seriously. All Beijing is doing is giving a list for them to work on completely denying them from China. The more importance Beijing puts on it, the more they're going to see China doesn't get it. Because they know these things are important to Beijing, the more they think they have power over China to get concessions. But Beijing still is stubborn like countries have to do it. There's a default answer for Chinese who somehow see this is the correct strategy by Beijing where like there's a Sun Tzusian plan afoot. Sino-US relations are its worse since the darkest days of the Cold War. Whatever plan is going on doesn't seem to be working. China might as well start working against what the US wants as they work against what China wants because it does look like Trump or someone like Trump is going to win the White House in the next Presidential election cycle and is Beijing going to continue on the same strategy that doesn't work as usual? Is Beijing going to throw a bone like they did giving Trump his phase one deal thinking they'll score points with Republicans? Biden has little time to change course with his China policy. If he doesn't, China might as well do what it can against US interests in the world and stop thinking as usual it'll win over them with things they can care less about. China can sign its soul away to them and they'll still won't be treated equally. Look at Japan and South Korea who have signed their soul away to the Devil. The only time they feel like one of them is in the context of how the US hates China more. Every other time they're treated as what place they've accepted which is at bottom of the ladder because Asians in the US still complain about racism and discrimination. They still complain about feeling invisible. Wouldn't Asians in the US feels the rewards first if they were truly treated equally? Instead you have an increase in attacks on Asians in general because of COVID-19 racism where they don't bother to single out just Chinese.

This is a cultural thing because I've noticed Asians, individually or ethnically, somehow think they'll personally be the exception that will win over Westerners and it'll be just them together against the rest of the world. And it's not like these people are the most Westernized or considered handsome or pretty. They're like the most ugliest Asians that are the antitheist of the ideal of model Westerners. Look at Hong Kongers thinking the West will go to war just for them. Or how about charges of genocide of Muslims by the West against China where the US does absolutely nothing but somehow Taiwanese think the US will go to war for them against China. What makes these people think they're so special? Do Taiwanese think they're more important than Uighurs or even Tibetans? I criticize Indians because they're only goal is beating China. China is not number one but they'll be satisfied in life forever when they just beat China not the US or the West. When I see nationalist bickering among Asians like with Japanese and South Koreans, it's all about who the US likes more who is then superior to the other. I see sometimes China is at that level because it seems all that China and the Chinese want from the US and the West is acceptance and respect... more than its neighbors. The West is full of petty hate and division that drives them. Why would anyone want their acceptance and respect? That's what I find what's wrong with Asians who find that important to have. That's what's going to hold back China if they value such petty things.
It is true that China does want to hold back and try to find solutions that benefit both sides, but I also do feel with the moves in magnesium, Evergrande, and power supply to factories delivering goods to the west and everything done in regards to Russia is that China knows they must have a back up plan along with ensuring that if the USA goes all in with no room for compromise that they can strike sectors in the USA that will do the most damage.

this might seem at the moment that China is on the defensive but really, China’s every move now is calculated that if the USA cannot let go of its hatred and racism against China, then every victory that the USA seems to gain against China will be two steps back for the USA. I mean because the USA knows what important to China they also should know that by focussing on denying China those items, they focus less and less on the issues that should spell out disaster for the USA if they dont concentrate on those, like that of the whole supply chain risk right now. The usa wants to decouple but doing so would harm the ordinary people to the extreme and bring real unrest if this whole thing isn’t very addressed soon. This is a long game that China has to learn on the go but as long as the USA remains hateful and spiteful, they risk going more damage to themselves in the long run and that in a way is the beauty of how China has positioned itself, you try to harm me and you harm yourself. I guess one thing that China doesn’t understand is why the USA is happy to do things that will harm itself in the name of its idealogy but in the end, China does need to be prepared.

It is true that China is taking a while to adjust to the hatred that the west has for China but in the event that the west does collapse in on itself and China learns to hate the west to the extreme, it may take centuries for the relationship to even begin to recover and during that time, well China like most other nations will work to make their tormentors suffer and unlike other nations, they know very well how to make it really hurt and given how the west has done much to harm China, well there would be no incentive to be nice to the west ever again and that would be terrifying
 
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bajingan

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things are just going to get worse over there for asians, especially in the coming decade when China will realistically going to fight the us over taiwan
If you have families with young children maybe its time to think about relocating, i would if im asian american
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I don't think that China wants something like the acceptance or respect of the US, they are very much aware of the capitalists and how they work.

As for why they are so polite and even explicitly says various things (such as Taiwan is an internal affair, and they will not have any discussion about it etc.), more then just talking to the US it's also to everyone else.
And in general, the way one can describe China's behaviour on the international stage is being 'proffesional' (also for like the media etc.)
Yes I've heard that before and it doesn't work or it wouldn't be the worst situation for Sino-US relations since the darkest days of the Cold War. The key reason why is because like vice versa with Americans, Beijing mistakenly thinks Americans think and see the same things as they do. Has doing nothing gotten to West to see China as not a threat? No, they see China as the greatest threat to everyone in the world and they tell everyone that. China let's the US control the narrative. Look the what's got the West upset now that stirred up alarms on China. China's hypersonic test. The Western media asks China why have such a weapon when it will start a nuclear arms race. China's response should've been "Did you ask that of the US government with their hypersonic program that they taunted to the world they would be able to strike anywhere around the world in less than thirty minutes?" Something so simple and correct to ask but instead Beijing thought it could convince the West it wasn't a hypersonic weapon that was being tested but a hypersonic reusable vehicle. Little difference. I personally would've added, "Was it because the US having a hypersonic weapons program is a matter of white privilege?" Everyone hates a hypocrite even hypocrites hate other hypocrites. That's why a hypocrite is universally despised. But no, Beijing thinks it's being civilized by not embarrassing the US the way they deserve. All because Beijing wants acceptance and respect and they know they might not get it if they do that.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Yes I've heard that before and it doesn't work or it wouldn't be the worst situation for Sino-US relations since the darkest days of the Cold War. The key reason why is because like vice versa with Americans, Beijing mistakenly thinks Americans think and see the same things as they do. Has doing nothing gotten to West to see China as not a threat? No, they see China as the greatest threat to everyone in the world and they tell everyone that. China let's the US control the narrative. Look the what's got the West upset now that stirred up alarms on China. China's hypersonic test. The Western media asks China why have such a weapon when it will start a nuclear arms race. China's response should've been "Did you ask that of the US government with their hypersonic program that they taunted to the world they would be able to strike anywhere around the world in less than thirty minutes?" Something so simple and correct to ask but instead Beijing thought it could convince the West it wasn't a hypersonic weapon that was being tested but a hypersonic reusable vehicle. Little difference. I personally would've added, "Was it because the US having a hypersonic weapons program is a matter of white privilege?" Everyone hates a hypocrite even hypocrites hate other hypocrites. That's why a hypocrite is universally despised. But no, Beijing thinks it's being civilized by not embarrassing the US the way they deserve. All because Beijing wants acceptance and respect and they know they might not get it if they do that.
Have to disagree. China doesn’t care about perception because they know it’s all meaningless BS fluff.

It makes its choices based on balance of real costs and benefits.

What benefit would scoring some meaningless debate points against some nobody US journo achieve? You will have to be the biggest optimist alive to think any such points scored would even register in any meaningful way with the Anglos. You think there is any scenario where the China could debate the US into backing down on anything of actual value?

If China came out and unequivocally confirmed its developing hypersonic nuclear missiles, all that will achieve is guarantee massive US funding for their own hypersonics.

As it is, not many would believe China’s narrative that it’s just a space plane test, but it costs China nothing while creating at least some doubt that opponents of more money for US hypersonic weapons can use against more funding demands. Even if they cannot stop the funding, at least there is a chance they can reduce and/or delay it.

This is a full spectrum long term contest, you don’t win that by gifting your opponents free points on anything.
 
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