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hullopilllw

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And that's a 4D chess move by the CCP. People thought that the sanctions placed by the CCP was merely symbolic, or even reactionary - reactionary because
1. Supposedly the CCP was afraid of sanctioning these individuals and only dared to do so at the end of the term
2. CCP was supposedly 'scaring the Democrats' by making such a move
Really the move was not as reactionary and playground-level as it seems. As you've shown, the move has substance and not just style - it affects these outgoing politicians who want to enter industry/consulting and making fat bucks. It sends a warning signal to everyone, not just Democrats, that trying to scapegoat the CCP will come with consequences.

Also, the timing isn't bad like some people think. It's designed to be subtle and give hints to US politicians about what not to do. It's different from the American rah-rah style of announcing Big, Fat sanctions on whoever they don't like. The CCP's sanctions show they know what they are doing, and also indicate it was measured, calculated, while not scaring the hell out of the ordinary person and incentivizing further anti-CCP movement. It says: I am a balanced, coolheaded person willing to engage with everyone on fair terms, but if you dare to attack my interests, I have means to punish you, and it will actually hurt.

Some people have wondered why Donald Trump wasn't sanctioned. Well that's an elephant in the room move, one that will sink Sino-US relations to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Sanctioning the leader of either China or USA is similar to the nuclear option. After all, even when Tokyo was firebombed, the Imperial Palace was left unharmed.

Bingo all right on the spot.

The sanctions comes late because the Chinese has such saying : 先礼后兵.后发制人.

Also a signal to the Biden admin that China respect the US-China relationship, but it has to be on a foundation of mutual respect.

It also strike directly at those US politicians who try to build their business base on their political legacy after leaving office. When the US Corporate interest depends on China both as a producer and major market, the message clear : do not try and test China on sovereignty issue.

Trump as a former president is not sanctioned as an act of respect. But i believe if he is impeached, China will throw him into the list too.
 
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solarz

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And that's a 4D chess move by the CCP. People thought that the sanctions placed by the CCP was merely symbolic, or even reactionary - reactionary because
1. Supposedly the CCP was afraid of sanctioning these individuals and only dared to do so at the end of the term
2. CCP was supposedly 'scaring the Democrats' by making such a move
Really the move was not as reactionary and playground-level as it seems. As you've shown, the move has substance and not just style - it affects these outgoing politicians who want to enter industry/consulting and making fat bucks. It sends a warning signal to everyone, not just Democrats, that trying to scapegoat the CCP will come with consequences.

Also, the timing isn't bad like some people think. It's designed to be subtle and give hints to US politicians about what not to do. It's different from the American rah-rah style of announcing Big, Fat sanctions on whoever they don't like. The CCP's sanctions show they know what they are doing, and also indicate it was measured, calculated, while not scaring the hell out of the ordinary person and incentivizing further anti-CCP movement. It says: I am a balanced, coolheaded person willing to engage with everyone on fair terms, but if you dare to attack my interests, I have means to punish you, and it will actually hurt.

Some people have wondered why Donald Trump wasn't sanctioned. Well that's an elephant in the room move, one that will sink Sino-US relations to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Sanctioning the leader of either China or USA is similar to the nuclear option. After all, even when Tokyo was firebombed, the Imperial Palace was left unharmed.

You answered your own question on why China didn't sanction Trump. Politicians like Pompeo look for a fat corporate handout after their term. That's what the sanctions hit. Trump is a billionaire, he doesn't need corporate handouts.

The other reason is that China doesn't need to sanction Trump. Trump is gone, he's not coming back. Pompeo and others, however, are still around, influencing US policy.
 

ansy1968

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You answered your own question on why China didn't sanction Trump. Politicians like Pompeo look for a fat corporate handout after their term. That's what the sanctions hit. Trump is a billionaire, he doesn't need corporate handouts.

The other reason is that China doesn't need to sanction Trump. Trump is gone, he's not coming back. Pompeo and others, however, are still around, influencing US policy.
@solarz

I'm not belittling the CCP official, but I think they were coach/guided by some American friends, expat or former US official who had a beef with Trump and his cohorts. If you sanction somebody you need the other side to conform to make it effective.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Notice how it's not just Pompeo himself who will be targeted but his family as well; an evangelical may want to be the sacrificial lamb to be martyred but he will think twice when he sees it will lead to the downfall and impoverishment and irrelevance of his children.

If you think about it, this really is masterful; it destroys the incentive these individuals had for making war on China, of getting six figure, lucrative jobs once out of office. Now that they have been designated financial Typhoid Mary to any employer worth their salt, the likes of navarro, pottinger et al will have to rely on family money or government pensions to get by. If there is any government pension to be had. Actually, only the president gets a pension, i don't think you get one just for being a WH official.
I read somewhere, Trump will lose his pension and free air travel if gets impeached twice.
 

Temstar

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Farmers in Delhi have occupied the iconic Red Fort (Indian equivalent of Tiananmen square). Few farmers have also been shot dead. Yet i dont see International media reporting on this.
Farmers have risen against Crony Capitalism.


Yeah it's getting quite intense:

 
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