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Shaolian

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Thanks for the quote. Herein lies the most telling part about the mentality of western culture. It's always about what something can do for their own selves.

The thing about mask wearing isn't so much about protecting one's own self, than it's about protecting everyone else around us. It could be true that when it comes to protecting ourselves, hand washing might be more effective than mask wearing. But masks' biggest effect is stopping dead at the source, such as an infected person, knowingly or otherwise, from spreading the virus without any impediment.

Thus, this also requires an amount of societal cooperation, be it naturally, or enforced by a higher enlightened authority for it to succed. It's only when a vast majority of a society adheres to mask wearing, that is when it works. No half hearted measures.
 

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Liberals can’t accept US is a ‘leading terrorist state,’ just as Trump supporters can’t accept his election loss – Chomsky​


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@Crang

He nailed it, not only the US but you can visibly see it on how the Australian react on their activities in Afghanistan, the British on the new strain of CV, the French on their colonial past.
 

AssassinsMace

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I like that.

That's why Republicans are very sensitive and upset China took this action. They know two-faced Republicans are making money from China one way or another even the Christian ones. I wonder if it'll work on sanctioning US politicians and banning doing business with districts and states that elect anti-China politicians. US corporations will be fleeing moving to other states. They did it with Xinjiang. If Biden is going to continue Trump China policy goals. Why not?
 

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The Jan. 26 public holiday marks the date the British fleet sailed into Sydney Harbour in 1788 to start a penal colony, viewing the land as unoccupied despite encountering settlements. But for many Indigenous Australians, who trace their lineage on the continent back 50,000 years, it is “Invasion Day”.

Chants of “Black Lives Matter” and “always was, always will be Aboriginal land” rang out during most rallies across the country, television footage showed. “At this moment, until this nation celebrates genocide, we will not be silent, we will not stop and we will keep coming.”

I am sure there is other text in this article but its not important. Lets focus on the facts.
 

Crang

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I like that.

That's why Republicans are very sensitive and upset China took this action. They know two-faced Republicans are making money from China one way or another even the Christian ones. I wonder if it'll work on sanctioning US politicians and banning doing business with districts and states that elect anti-China politicians. US corporations will be fleeing moving to other states. They did it with Xinjiang. If Biden is going to continue Trump China policy goals. Why not?
And that's a 4D chess move by the CCP. People thought that the sanctions placed by the CCP was merely symbolic, or even reactionary - reactionary because
1. Supposedly the CCP was afraid of sanctioning these individuals and only dared to do so at the end of the term
2. CCP was supposedly 'scaring the Democrats' by making such a move
Really the move was not as reactionary and playground-level as it seems. As you've shown, the move has substance and not just style - it affects these outgoing politicians who want to enter industry/consulting and making fat bucks. It sends a warning signal to everyone, not just Democrats, that trying to scapegoat the CCP will come with consequences.

Also, the timing isn't bad like some people think. It's designed to be subtle and give hints to US politicians about what not to do. It's different from the American rah-rah style of announcing Big, Fat sanctions on whoever they don't like. The CCP's sanctions show they know what they are doing, and also indicate it was measured, calculated, while not scaring the hell out of the ordinary person and incentivizing further anti-CCP movement. It says: I am a balanced, coolheaded person willing to engage with everyone on fair terms, but if you dare to attack my interests, I have means to punish you, and it will actually hurt.

Some people have wondered why Donald Trump wasn't sanctioned. Well that's an elephant in the room move, one that will sink Sino-US relations to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Sanctioning the leader of either China or USA is similar to the nuclear option. After all, even when Tokyo was firebombed, the Imperial Palace was left unharmed.
 

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1. Supposedly the CCP was afraid of sanctioning these individuals and only dared to do so at the end of the term
I do not agree if the CCP goes after government officials in foreign countries, that would be kind of like getting closer to wanting to fight a war.

What happened here, it was obviously an escalation, and a dramatic one.

The big message is 2 two fold IMHO.

1. They are going after people like Pompeo demonstrates the CCP will go after its enemies.

2. The CCP really just do not give a fudge about what Biden may think. The CCP will go after these Americans, one day out of office.

When the enemy is still on the run, you still chase.

The current Liberals in power in the United States, they are not risk takers, they are people who worked in the government their entire lives.

They're outmatched.
 

hashtagpls

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Some people have wondered why Donald Trump wasn't sanctioned. Well that's an elephant in the room move, one that will sink Sino-US relations to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Sanctioning the leader of either China or USA is similar to the nuclear option. After all, even when Tokyo was firebombed, the Imperial Palace was left unharmed.
Exactly the same reason why when Japan nationalised the islands and joined the US' pivot, that only Japanese firms were targeted but US firms were left alone and even allowed to profit from the lost marketshare. It creates division and sows chaos in the ranks of the enemy. Rather than solidarity, watching the US benefit so openly and flagrantly made the japanese incredibly angry such that they refused to go along with outward China containment plans and even went ahead and picked a fight with Korea over comfort women, despite obama's objections and calls for a united front against china.

You see the same when Korea allowed THAAD, and most recently with Australia's trade war with China. They fucked over their relationship with China for the anglo US, only to watch the anglo US benefit at their expense. Ditto with Canada and the scrapping of the XL pipeline.

Chinese leaders have been practicing war for millennia, they know war is politics by other means.

Full Metal Jacket illustrates this aspect of human psychology very well:
 

hashtagpls

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I like that.

That's why Republicans are very sensitive and upset China took this action. They know two-faced Republicans are making money from China one way or another even the Christian ones. I wonder if it'll work on sanctioning US politicians and banning doing business with districts and states that elect anti-China politicians. US corporations will be fleeing moving to other states. They did it with Xinjiang. If Biden is going to continue Trump China policy goals. Why not?
Notice how it's not just Pompeo himself who will be targeted but his family as well; an evangelical may want to be the sacrificial lamb to be martyred but he will think twice when he sees it will lead to the downfall and impoverishment and irrelevance of his children.

If you think about it, this really is masterful; it destroys the incentive these individuals had for making war on China, of getting six figure, lucrative jobs once out of office. Now that they have been designated financial Typhoid Mary to any employer worth their salt, the likes of navarro, pottinger et al will have to rely on family money or government pensions to get by. If there is any government pension to be had. Actually, only the president gets a pension, i don't think you get one just for being a WH official.
 

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