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Overbom

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U.S. lawmakers are pushing bills that aim to break up the cartel; charge it in front of the World Trade Organization; or even seize assets its members own in the U.S.
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Looming even larger in Congress, analysts and lobbyists said, is pending legislation called the No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act, or NOPEC. Debated now for more than two decades but never passed, the bill would allow the Justice Department to sue members of OPEC for antitrust violations.

Current U.S. law prohibits sovereign governments from being sued without their consent. But under NOPEC, the Justice Department could sue OPEC members—national governments that own and control oil companies—for price fixing in U.S. courts under the Sherman Act, and then seize foreign-owned property in the U.S. to pay for any resulting damages.
That's good news. The more threats, the more publicity of these threats, the more the Gulf will feel threatened and turn away from the US.

I sincerely hope that the whole US-apparatus make a full scale media attack against the Gulf. Biggest gift that Xi could ask for from Biden
 

sunnymaxi

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Another one. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


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56860

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it will be painful for Saudis to replace all US made fighter jets but if ever decoupling happen, China would love to supply J-16 and FC-31.
I think there is an agreement floating around between China and Russia that prohibits China from its exporting flankers because of prior tech transfers. In any case J-16 is easily the most advanced flanker variant in the world and is too high tech for China to export. They would have to specifically create a gimped version of it for export.
 

sunnymaxi

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I think there is an agreement floating around between China and Russia that prohibits China from its exporting flankers because of prior tech transfers. In any case J-16 is easily the most advanced flanker variant in the world and is too high tech for China to export. They would have to specifically create a gimped version of it for export.
China purchased SU-27 produce in mainland as J-11 under license agreement with Russia and made promise, they will never sale this aircraft to any foreign customer. that's it

J-16 and J-15 these two flankers have nothing to do with Russian permission. China derived J-16 from J-11.

but yeah agreed with your second point. but China can sale J-16 with inferior avionics. another point, prize is too damn high for China to ignore. Saudi in China's camp is a huge victory.
 

Overbom

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China purchased SU-27 produce in mainland as J-11 under license agreement with Russia and made promise, they will never sale this aircraft to any foreign customer. that's it

J-16 and J-15 these two flankers have nothing to do with Russian permission. China derived J-16 from J-11.

but yeah agreed with your second point. but China can sale J-16 with inferior avionics. another point, prize is too damn high for China to ignore. Saudi in China's camp is a huge victory.
Why would they even go for a 4th gen aircraft? They already got loads of them.

Saudi Arabia has the money and I am sure it is willing to splash all that for a 5th gen aircraft with possibly domestic production/assembly/ limited ToT/becoming a regional hub
 
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