I know you jest, but US had form with internment camps. (It's funny that US internment camps is ok, China's is against human rights)!
I don't know whether or not if you can see a plane 50 miles away or not. But the intend to intimidate is clear!
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I know you jest, but US had form with internment camps. (It's funny that US internment camps is ok, China's is against human rights)!
I don't know whether or not if you can see a plane 50 miles away or not. But the intend to intimidate is clear!
Well ... I believe "encroach" is a word to mean to come close to.
Regardless, I still doubt these stories are true.
Didn't China declare an ADIZ a few years ago?
If they fly a military plane towards Shanghai, is Shanghai a major military fortification along with being a major metropolis?
Those stories sound like the same old stuff/lies to me. Thanks, but no thanks.
The PRC flying a lot of planes to Japan airspace and towards the median line in between the straits. So we read the Americans fly something directly at Shanghai.
One plane!
No thanks.
Well ... I believe "encroach" is a word to mean to come close to.
Regardless, I still doubt these stories are true.
Didn't China declare an ADIZ a few years ago?
If they fly a military plane towards Shanghai, is Shanghai a major military fortification along with being a major metropolis?
Those stories sound like the same old stuff/lies to me. Thanks, but no thanks.
The PRC flying a lot of planes to Japan airspace and towards the median line in between the straits. So we read the Americans fly something directly at Shanghai.
One plane!
No thanks.
It is not the encroach that's the problem. It's your words that says 'Chinese airspace'. Which i never said it was.
Clearly within 50 miles is inside China's ADIZ. But the ADIZ is not Chinese airspace.
In Any case, it s a report by that article, whether you chose to believe or not is down to you. I can't prove it one way or another nor do I really feel a need to.
Also whether China fly in and out of Japan ADIZ is irrelevant. China being the country next to Japan will be flying in the vicinity. Just as Japan does as well.
The question is if someone that's not even your neighbour flying in and out to clearly intimidate should be the question you should be asking if that's right or not.
Although I agree in principle with what you are saying, I disagree on this point.
The pandemic, put China into a stronger position. The CCP is doing the right thing by being more aggressive towards everybody. Seems like basic strategy to me.
If the Americans claim they are pushing back, with this flight, then that is what that is, if it even happened. The Americans still have to show support to their official and unofficial allies.
An article about recent PLAAF active around Japan, something that done for show for everyone to notice, and few reports of increased PLAAF around Taiwan too lately.
solarz
Brigadier
Sweet, I hope they actually fly them near the SCS islands. It'll give China invaluable data on stealth detection.
Whenever they fly B-2s and F-22s around China, they probably are carrying RCS enhancing equipment. I don't think they're stupid enough not to.
I wonder about that. Are Luneberg lenses as reflective of long wave radar or are they optimized to reflect in the high frequency bands?
Some ultra long wavelength radars are almost certainly effective at detecting stealth aircraft but that's where the usefulness ends. They are supposed to be extremely inaccurate and at best can be calibrated to give a general location against only large targets and cannot be used to guide missiles. There was an old Chinese attempt at experimenting with multiple units of calibrated long wavelength radars and using some sort of algorithm and machine learning to combine their returns to improve the detection of larger stealth aircraft like the B-2. Even then they are not useful for guiding missiles. Maybe CEC to guide long range SAMs with active radar homing and then once the missile picks up the target once it's within a close enough range to reliably use its own radar on the target. Pure speculation but anti stealth radars are extremely limited in usefulness.
If they weren't hopeless and considered to remain hopeless at being involved in attacking stealth aircraft, the US and China wouldn't bother with expanding fleets of 5th gen fighters and the B-21 or H-20 programs. One cannot dismiss this with the excuse that these stealth fighters and bombers are still almost invincible against weaker and less advanced opponents because these platforms are mainly aimed to be effective against other Chinese, American, Russian, and European military equipment which are fielded by their own nations or sold to other's. Stealth is evolving along with anti-stealth technologies.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
The arrest of any military officer over corruption in China didn't start a coup Americans were hoping for... Paul McCartney holding a press conference to announce he wasn't going to the 2008 Beijing Olympics over his problem with China didn't start a revolution. The US media trying to spin a traffic accident between Mongolian and Chinese drivers did start a revolution. Their spin that floods in China is Beijing's fault didn't start a revolution. The threat of disengaging with China to get a billion American-loving Chinese wailing over their gods abandoning them didn't start a revolution. But this is the Arab Spring moment the US has been waiting for...