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BMEWS

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Now this is delusional, he must really be thinking that China is crazy enough to actually come and invade the US.

He means China will become a strong hegemon and people all over the world will have to learn the language...

I mean currently Chinese people have to learn English in school so I don't see why Trump would have a problem with it being reversed or equalized.
 

emblem21

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He means China will become a strong hegemon and people all over the world will have to learn the language...

I mean currently Chinese people have to learn English in school so I don't see why Trump would have a problem with it being reversed or equalized.
Cant imagine having more then two languages being a bad th
I have been telling here that, this is exactly what will happen. China cannot continue this kind of piece by piece self-reliance policy. If China really wants to to be self-reliant, they must adopt an Country wide policy. Which means, Huawei should not develop its own OS while Xiaomi gets to keep using Android. That undermines Huawei and also gives boost to Xiaomi short term, but a future ban will waste its investments. All Chinese companies making phones should work together to come up with a single and dominant OS-services-apps platform that will be directly competing against Android-Google-Facebook-Uber worldwide monopoly. China needs to break the monopoly of the US eco-system, otherwise it will be cutoff.

A Chinese phone that doesn't have viable alternative to Facebook will not sell outside China. A Chinese phone that doesn't have a viable alternative to Gmail/Google search will not sell outside China. On the other hand, Chinese apps that can be cutoff playstore at any time will never be able to get market share worldwide and can be destroyed anytime by US ban on playstore inclusion.

So, its a stranglehold from both sides. China needs to give up on global expansion by individual tech companies and organize them to be completely free of US influence by government mandate. Which means Chinese apps will not run without a Chinese phone OS. and Chinese phone will not sell without Chinese phone OS. That kind of strict cutoff is needed to give the companies enough push to work together and come up with a comprehensive eco-system.
Something of interest, China is well aware that a decoupling will take place one day and this may be old news but with this development (
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China will eventually get there in terms of technological development and will eventually surpass everyone's expectations. Also given that the USA is trying there hardest to prevent anyone from competing with them with measures like this, lets assume an economic collapse occurs (given the current state with all the unemployed and bankruptcies happening all over) and the US is unable to do much R & D during this time along with Microsoft being unable to move out quickly due to well, society collapsing and China being one of the few places that has a market for development, China would have quite a bit of time to develop and developments helps to keep an economy alive since you have to admit with the current infrastructure in the USA, they have ample room for redevelopment but I guess given the current politic climate and lack of long term planning, this won't happen. If the USA doesn't provide Microsoft with an incentive to move out other then threats, what is to stop Microsoft from installing another company in China that can help China in development if only to keep earning profits in China. Also if Microsoft does leave China, most of the workers there would have the talent to work in another Chinese firm to push for new development
 

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The White House document seen by Reuters is not clear on whether the United States would implement a similar crackdown on WeChat, the social media app owned by China’s Tencent Holdings Ltd (
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It seems that the Wechat ban may not happen, instead things will just be focused on TIktok.

But I hope Chinese will not be retarded and end up buying more iPhones this winter. I'm never buying another one if apps can just be banned for US to maintain monopolies.
 

BMEWS

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It seems that the Wechat ban may not happen, instead things will just be focused on TIktok.

But I hope Chinese will not be retarded and end up buying more iPhones this winter. I'm never buying another one if apps can just be banned for US to maintain monopolies.
We merely at the Flip part of the Flip Flop
Wait and see
 

plawolf

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As with the trade war, Trump loves to make simplistic and sweeping moves that sounds tough and plays well to his base, but never really fully grasped the true total implications.

That is why China will not allow TikTok to cave, because it wants Trump to press the trigger on these bans. While this will cause a fair bit of damage to the Chinese companies targeted in the short run, in the medium to long term, the damage to American interests are going to be exponentially worse.

If America does this, it will shatter its monopoly on mobile app stores and OS. Because it would burn a hell of a lot of people beyond the Chinese this is supposed to target.

Developers, users and free countries will all jump ship as soon as a credible alternative becomes available. And wouldn’t you know it, Huawei has been developing just such an alternative.

I think China will make concessions that are simply unthinkable to American tech companies of making the Huawei App Store and OS truly boarderless and maybe even open source.

China does not want to corner the market like America, merely shattering America’s existing stranglehold and creating a truly free and open market placed and even playing field would be progress enough.
 

localizer

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As with the trade war, Trump loves to make simplistic and sweeping moves that sounds tough and plays well to his base, but never really fully grasped the true total implications.

That is why China will not allow TikTok to cave, because it wants Trump to press the trigger on these bans. While this will cause a fair bit of damage to the Chinese companies targeted in the short run, in the medium to long term, the damage to American interests are going to be exponentially worse.

If America does this, it will shatter its monopoly on mobile app stores and OS. Because it would burn a hell of a lot of people beyond the Chinese this is supposed to target.

Developers, users and free countries will all jump ship as soon as a credible alternative becomes available. And wouldn’t you know it, Huawei has been developing just such an alternative.

I think China will make concessions that are simply unthinkable to American tech companies of making the Huawei App Store and OS truly boarderless and maybe even open source.

China does not want to corner the market like America, merely shattering America’s existing stranglehold and creating a truly free and open market placed and even playing field would be progress enough.
We merely at the Flip part of the Flip Flop
Wait and see


There needs to be more decentralized platforms for the internet. Thought I don't know how this can be done.

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emblem21

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There needs to be more decentralized platforms for the internet. Thought I don't know how this can be done.

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This just goes to show how bad the trade war was with many of these big companies that are all doing business in China and also how badly the US brand is going to be damaged by Trumps/GOP actions. The world will see that as, if you don't tow our line, we will destroy you economically, rules be damned. In the end, this will kick start a process around the world to develop independent development lines that the US cannot sanction. In the end, this will speed up the decline of the USA as a whole since they where supposed to have a trustworthy reputation when it comes to selling products, not that of a tyrant that can change there mind on a whim and just try to destroy hardworking companies as this it is there God given right. It will obviously harm China in the short term but in the long term, this simply places the USA in a position that sooner or later, they will crash and burn. Also, I cannot imagine that any of these companies are going to be too happy in losing so much of there profits that they could have earned without Trump and the government there to mess everything up.
 

emblem21

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There needs to be more decentralized platforms for the internet. Thought I don't know how this can be done.

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This just goes to show how bad the trade war was with many of these big companies that are all doing business in China and also how badly the US brand is going to be damaged by Trumps/GOP actions. The world will see that as, if you don't tow our line, we will destroy you economically, rules be damned. In the end, this will kick start a process around the world to develop independent development lines that the US cannot sanction. In the end, this will speed up the decline of the USA as a whole since they where supposed to have a trustworthy reputation when it comes to selling products, not that of a tyrant that can change there mind on a whim and just try to destroy hardworking companies as this it is there God given right. It will obviously harm China in the short term but in the long term, this simply places the USA in a position that sooner or later, they will crash and burn.
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well once his could be avoided if they didn’t activate follow the whims of Pompeo so not sympathy there.
 

j17wang

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She’s half Indian, and raised by her Hindu mother. Congrats to her. But she’s going to favor India.

it’s also amazing how Indian Americans have been able to climb the ladder in both American politics and Business. Very few Chinese Americans haven achieved the same success despite having similar education backgrounds.

TBH, she won't be able to influence a biden administration to favour India alot without being called out as Un-American. Also, she is of tamil descent and comes from Tamil Nadu, which is not exactly BJP friendly territory. I actually think the sectarian violence in India is about to get much worse, and BJP was actually thrown a life-line from COVID. But there are still daily riots in Kashmir, and just yesterday there was race riots in bangalore which left 3 people dead. Overt support for BJP from a VP will also not go down well with the muslim community in the US (who lean democrat), who will again be feeling the heat which has been temporarily directed
 
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