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horse

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Already walked back but strategic ambiguity no longer exists. Let's not kid ourselves

That is applying double standards against us Chinese.

The United States was rather ambiguous on what they would do with regards to Russia massing troops on the Ukrainian border. In fact, as of today, their strategy is still in constant flux in regards to that situation.

But when it comes to China and Taiwan, where this US ambiguity has existed for all our lives, for some reason that is out.

Why the double standard.
 

Chilled_k6

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This thing is going to a dangerous place. Biden nowadays says stup*d things everywhere all the way to calling other presidents with wrong names. But this is serious stuff. The end of ambiguity may trigger extreme reactions from China. I hope I am wrong but we may watch a Ukraine 2 before 2025. China at the gov level probably sees the economy as something that can be built later. The CPC may very well decide Taiwan is inducing too much uncertainty in China's future and that conquering it is the best course. If Biden doesn't walk back from this like it did the previous time China would challenge this soon.

Edit: Turns out they had already done:
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Biden said the exact same thing in late October last year in a townhall. And the Americans walk back on it after too. Pretty sure this is a deliberate (and very poor) move to goad China.
 

Coalescence

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Pretty sure this is a deliberate (and very poor) move to goad China.
I'm going to sound like a broken record, but how exactly they are going to goad China to attacking Taiwan with these dumb messages. It would only serve to deter China if they are actually going to protect Taiwan. The Chinese leadership knows what they're doing and the what the clowns are up to on the West, if an armed reunification were to happen, it will be because of geopolitical or military reality have changed to require it.
 

escobar

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I'm going to sound like a broken record, but how exactly they are going to goad China to attacking Taiwan with these dumb messages. It would only serve to deter China if they are actually going to protect Taiwan. The Chinese leadership knows what they're doing and the what the clowns are up to on the West, if an armed reunification were to happen, it will be because of geopolitical or military reality have changed to require it.
This
 

Coalescence

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That's what I meant by military or geopolitical reality changing to require armed reunification. Their "strategic ambiguity" or "salami slicing" doesn't really do anything to help them get closer to their goal, if they wanted to goad China now, they can do what is suggested like basing US troops without warning or those declarations. The reason for those threats and messaging is to get China on the negotiation table to extract concessions.
 

FriedButter

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The rebuke came hours after US President Joe Biden vowed to use military force to defend Taiwan if necessary. China considers the island an inalienable part if its territory.

The White House has clarified Biden’s statement following an outcry from Beijing. The US president’s words did not constitute any changes in Washington’s policy towards Taiwan or China, a White House official told journalists.

Biden caught lying again about the one China Policy. Shocker. White House trying to backtrack the same policy like what the 1000th time now from Biden?

The neocons are probably thinking they could exchange the slow loss of Ukraine with Taiwan and that China won’t do anything about it.
 

plawolf

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Biden caught lying again about the one China Policy. Shocker. White House trying to backtrack the same policy like what the 1000th time now from Biden?

The neocons are probably thinking they could exchange the slow loss of Ukraine with Taiwan and that China won’t do anything about it.
Position of strength!!!
 

FriedButter

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Biden’s remarks on ‘intervening militarily’ in Taiwan question not gaffe but signals hollowing out one-China policy

By stating the US would intervene militarily if the Chinese mainland takes the island of Taiwan by force, the Biden administration is taking a step further to hollow out the one-China policy, and Biden's remarks had led to China's strong opposition. Analysts warned that as the US and its spearheads, especially Japan, are using the Ukraine crisis to promote a cognitive battle to help with the de facto "independence" of the island of Taiwan, their schemes would encounter a stronger response from the Chinese mainland as the mainland makes no compromise on its core interests.

Like his remarks in October, what Biden said on Monday was inconsistent with the US government's traditional position on this issue which is usually described as "strategic ambiguity" and together with a string of moves, the Biden government is taking a step further to hollow out the one-China policy, said Da Wei, director of the Center for International Security and Strategy of Tsinghua University in Beijing on Monday.

However, given the sensitivity of the Taiwan question, playing tactics through either words or actions will lead to no good result. Da said that "if the Biden administration insists on doing so, China-US relations would be like the Titanic hitting an iceberg - ending in crisis or worse."

Biden also said that deterring China from taking the island was one reason why Russia needs to "pay a dear price" for the conflict with Ukraine. He added that any effort by China to use force against Taiwan would make China "dislocate the entire region" and "be another action similar to what happened in Ukraine."
 
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