Europe tried threatening Russia by jumping on a economic landmine and tried to take out Russia.
Russia was smart enough and jumped away and now the EU crippled itself.
Russia will just continue walking east wards to new friends.
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Russia was smart enough and jumped away and now the EU crippled itself.
Russia will just continue walking east wards to new friends.
Over 80000 cases in taiwan. 41 deaths. It will get over 100k cases eventually.
Reminds me of the trajectory in Australia, when we decided on opening up and to live with covid. Similar population wise, much bigger land area although concentrated in major cities.
LOL... I love European infighting.
Croatian President Zoran Milanovic plans to instruct the country’s permanent representative to NATO to block the accession of Finland and Sweden to the US-led organization, he said on Wednesday.
Refusing consent would turn the international community’s attention to problems facing ethnic Croats in neighboring Bosnia and Herzegovina, Milanovic told reporters. Under the current election laws, Croat representatives tend to get elected with the votes of Bosnian Muslims, known as Bosniaks. Zagreb is pushing to revise this.
“I have said before, Croats in Bosnia are more important to me than the entire Russian-Finnish border,” Milanovic said.
Stockholm and Helsinki formally broke with their history of neutrality on May 15 and applied for NATO membership. However, the acceptance of new countries to the bloc requires the unanimous consent of all members.
Turkey was “showing how to fight for national interests,” Milanovic said, pointing to to any agreement admitting Sweden and Finland to NATO until they denounce “terrorists and their accomplices” associated with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and the Revolutionary People’s Liberation Front (DHKP/C), among other concessions.
“Turkey will certainly not budge before it gets what it wants,” the Croat president said.
Milanovic’s latest comments have placed more strain on his already-fraught relationship with the government of Prime Minister Andrej Plenkovic, whom he has accused of failing to stand up for Croatian interests, local news outlet N1 reported.
Croatian Foreign Minister Gordan Grlic-Radman told state radio on Wednesday that Croatia's permanent NATO representative Mario Nobilo has already been told to “to approve Finland and Sweden’s membership application” and “will be given power of attorney to sign a protocol that will follow in the next few days.”
Croatia’s parliament is “absolutely certain” to ratify the agreement, Grlic-Radman added.
Another NATO leader voices opposition to Sweden and Finland
Following Turkey’s move, Croatia’s head-of-state also seeks a better deal with the blocCroatian President Zoran Milanovic plans to instruct the country’s permanent representative to NATO to block the accession of Finland and Sweden to the US-led organization, he said on Wednesday.
Refusing consent would turn the international community’s attention to problems facing ethnic Croats in neighboring Bosnia and Herzegovina, Milanovic told reporters. Under the current election laws, Croat representatives tend to get elected with the votes of Bosnian Muslims, known as Bosniaks. Zagreb is pushing to revise this.
“I have said before, Croats in Bosnia are more important to me than the entire Russian-Finnish border,” Milanovic said.
Stockholm and Helsinki formally broke with their history of neutrality on May 15 and applied for NATO membership. However, the acceptance of new countries to the bloc requires the unanimous consent of all members.
Turkey was “showing how to fight for national interests,” Milanovic said, pointing to to any agreement admitting Sweden and Finland to NATO until they denounce “terrorists and their accomplices” associated with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and the Revolutionary People’s Liberation Front (DHKP/C), among other concessions.
“Turkey will certainly not budge before it gets what it wants,” the Croat president said.
Milanovic’s latest comments have placed more strain on his already-fraught relationship with the government of Prime Minister Andrej Plenkovic, whom he has accused of failing to stand up for Croatian interests, local news outlet N1 reported.
Croatian Foreign Minister Gordan Grlic-Radman told state radio on Wednesday that Croatia's permanent NATO representative Mario Nobilo has already been told to “to approve Finland and Sweden’s membership application” and “will be given power of attorney to sign a protocol that will follow in the next few days.”
Croatia’s parliament is “absolutely certain” to ratify the agreement, Grlic-Radman added.
The last sentence though? The parliament ratification is what's matters most.
It looks like Erdogan's list of demands have leaked online:
Turkey is one of the most important NATO members because of it's geographical location, kicking them out isn't an option. You lose Turkey and you lose the straits and nuclear launch sites.
- NATO should classify not only the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) but also the Syrian Defense Forces (SDF) and the Fetullah Terrorist Organization (FETO) in the alliance’s list of threats.
- The United States should then extradite Pennsylvania-based dissident cleric Fethullah Gülen to Turkey.
- All NATO members, including Sweden and Finland, must cease any activity by the PKK, SDF, or FETO on their territories.
- The United States and other NATO bodies must lift all sanctions related to Turkey’s purchase of the S-400, including sanctions upon the Turkish Defense Industry Directorate.
- Turkey would not only receive the new F-16s and upgrade kits for its existing fleet, but Turkey will also be able to rejoin the F-35 program from which it was expelled after activating the Russian S-400s.
- Lastly, the United States would cease preventing Turkey from exporting military products containing Western components.
Turkey is one of the most important NATO members because of it's geographical location, kicking them out isn't an option. You lose Turkey and you lose the straits and nuclear launch sites.
Even so, this is a great list. I hope he gets everything he wants. We have seen China present two lists, and now Turkey has one too, I think it’s a trend.
Edit: Russia also presented 2 lists.