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plawolf

Brigadier
Well F. Didn’t think Iran had the balls or were foolish/reckless enough for this.

Looks like it’s war then. F.
 

SteelBird

Major
So far, not sure any casualty or damage at the two airbases? In my opinion, the Iranian would try avoid US troop casualty, the attack is somehow symbolic. I don't think Iran would ever want an all out war against the US unless someone (outside of Iran) is preparing for world war III.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
So far though it’s less then impressive. They hurled 15 610mm Fateh 110 rockets.
10 landed in Al Assad 1 in Erbil the rest were duds far less effective it seems that the Iranians claim of “100% Precision”. No casualties of US troops. This seems like moral shooting.
 

muddie

New Member
I wonder if this is the full extent of Iran's retaliatory response or if there is more to come?

The Iranian government is in a tricky situation where they must respond in kind to not only save face in front of the Iranian public, but also deter future assassinations against Iranian targets. They must also not push U.S. into a full scale war though I believe the US is currently not in a position to invade Iran.

Iran's end goal fo expelling US forces from Iraq would be considered a major victory if they achieve it.
 

plawolf

Brigadier
Trump’s initial tweet response was unusually restrained and in stark contrast to his fire and fury rhetoric before Iran struck back. It’s almost a classic textbook bullyboy response whereby a bully will be all bravado and mouth until you punch him back, at which point he is suddenly all reasonable and wanting to be your best bud.

The thing is that president Trump isn’t businessman Trump. His initial gut response might be typical bullyboy, but president trump has the full might of the US military at his disposal, so he has plenty of options to strike back with no need to back down. The worry is that once he has had a chance to claim down and reassess his options, he will realise this and want to reassert his dominance.

Unlike NK, Iran has no nuclear backstop, meaning the US has absolute escalation advantage at every level.

I also think that there are plenty of American generals, spymasters and diplomats who see the Iranian response as a perfect pretext and cover to launch the strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities many of them have been desperate to hit for years.

These men and women would be able to easily frame their aims in the language of electoral advantage and convince Trump that to not retaliate against this Iranian response would be to show weakness and all but end his re-election prospects. Especially in light of the very public threats he has already made.

As such, I am very worried that Iran and America are now rapidly sprinting to the end of the slippery slope towards war, and will soon fall over point of no return.

There are too many converging forces and interests in America that wants war with Iran, or at least massive comprehensive strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities to reset their nuclear ambitions. Many of those interested parties would be the exact people who are now briefing trump on what his options are.

It is always easier to start wars than to avoid them, it takes tremendous strength of character and convictions to tell an angry population that they need to keep the bigger picture in mind and not give in to their baser instincts of anger and cravings for revenge, especially if doing so means going against the advice of your own generals and advisers, and indeed, possibly his own personal political interests. Can anyone say that Trump is the guy who has those qualities, integrity and convictions to put the interests of his nation and the world first?

My gloomy predictions is that Trump will order a full strike against all Iranian nuclear facilities, and then have the cheek to apply double talk and claim that such a move is a massively restrained and reserved response that the Iranians should be grateful for because he did not commit war crimes by ordering the deliberate attack of Iranian cultural sites like he threatened.

I would love to be wrong, but that’s how I see this going.
 

Jura

General
according to Glob. Times
Iranian embassy to China trending on Chinese social media after rockets hit US bases
so follow the link
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if interested, it also contains this graphics:


The Wednesday announcement by the Iran's embassy to China on Chinese twitter-like social media platform Sina Weibo. The annoucement says "End of malign US presence in West Asia has begun." Photo: Screenshot of Sina Weibo
 

Gatekeeper

Captain
Registered Member
Trump’s initial tweet response was unusually restrained and in stark contrast to his fire and fury rhetoric before Iran struck back. It’s almost a classic textbook bullyboy response whereby a bully will be all bravado and mouth until you punch him back, at which point he is suddenly all reasonable and wanting to be your best bud.

The thing is that president Trump isn’t businessman Trump. His initial gut response might be typical bullyboy, but president trump has the full might of the US military at his disposal, so he has plenty of options to strike back with no need to back down. The worry is that once he has had a chance to claim down and reassess his options, he will realise this and want to reassert his dominance.

Unlike NK, Iran has no nuclear backstop, meaning the US has absolute escalation advantage at every level.

I also think that there are plenty of American generals, spymasters and diplomats who see the Iranian response as a perfect pretext and cover to launch the strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities many of them have been desperate to hit for years.

These men and women would be able to easily frame their aims in the language of electoral advantage and convince Trump that to not retaliate against this Iranian response would be to show weakness and all but end his re-election prospects. Especially in light of the very public threats he has already made.

As such, I am very worried that Iran and America are now rapidly sprinting to the end of the slippery slope towards war, and will soon fall over point of no return.

There are too many converging forces and interests in America that wants war with Iran, or at least massive comprehensive strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities to reset their nuclear ambitions. Many of those interested parties would be the exact people who are now briefing trump on what his options are.

It is always easier to start wars than to avoid them, it takes tremendous strength of character and convictions to tell an angry population that they need to keep the bigger picture in mind and not give in to their baser instincts of anger and cravings for revenge, especially if doing so means going against the advice of your own generals and advisers, and indeed, possibly his own personal political interests. Can anyone say that Trump is the guy who has those qualities, integrity and convictions to put the interests of his nation and the world first?

My gloomy predictions is that Trump will order a full strike against all Iranian nuclear facilities, and then have the cheek to apply double talk and claim that such a move is a massively restrained and reserved response that the Iranians should be grateful for because he did not commit war crimes by ordering the deliberate attack of Iranian cultural sites like he threatened.

I would love to be wrong, but that’s how I see this going.
Don't read anything from his tweets, you are assuming POTUS is a rational man, he is anything but! I'm more pessimistic than you.

Don't forget he threatened "dispoportionate response" if ANY US personnel or bases are attacked!
 

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