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A Hong Kong government spokesman said in a statement that Chief Executive Carrie Lam apologized to the people of Hong Kong and pledged to "adopt a most sincere and humble attitude to accept criticisms and make improvements in serving the public."
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A Hong Kong government spokesman said in a statement that Chief Executive Carrie Lam apologized to the people of Hong Kong and pledged to "adopt a most sincere and humble attitude to accept criticisms and make improvements in serving the public."
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Well, Carrie Lam caved in. To bad for her.
 

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Well, Carrie Lam caved in. To bad for her.
Indeed. Mistakes like this send the message that violent chaotic protests get things done and herald a future filled with them. When they protest, Lam should have removed the concessions previously made to them and expedited the bill. That will show them what tearing up bricks from the ground and throwing them at police can do. Injure the police? Armour vehicle coming your way. No violent protest should ever be rewarded in any way. If these people want to send the message that the population of Hong Kong is too unruly to control then Beijing should send 10 million from the mainland and see what the new population looks like now. Lam should step down and Beijing should send someone really hard-line. These brainwashed fools are absolutely miserable, trying to create a safe haven in China for Chinese criminals.
 
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Beijing: Central government continues to support Carrie Lam

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So it was a Triton, not a Global Hawk. Perhaps the wreckage will yield some intact goodies... The picture (from
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) looks like the head and its sensors weren't hit or detonated; they just have to survive the crash.

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Iran's Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
Guard says US aircraft brought down in its airspace, but US official says drone was flying in international territory.

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The Guard said it downed a Global Hawk surveillance drone but the US denied it [AP]
Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard force said Thursday it shot down a US "spy drone" over its territory, Iranian state television reported.

An anonymous US official later told news agencies an American naval drone was downed over international airspace.

"The US-made Global Hawk surveillance drone was brought down" in the country's southern coastal province of Hormozgan, the Revolutionary Guard was quoted as saying by the English-language Press TV.

"It was shot down when it entered Iran's airspace near the Kouhmobarak district in the south," the force's website said.

State television did not provide images of the aircraft.

International airspace?
The US military initially denied the report.

US to send 1,000 more troops to Middle East amid Iran tensions


"There was no drone over Iranian territory," Navy Captain Bill Urban, a US Central Command spokesman, told The Associated Press. He declined further comment.

However an American official, speaking on condition of anonymity, later said a US Navy MQ-4C Triton drone was brought down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz.

No further details were immediately available, including the time of the shootdown.

A senior Iranian security official said on Wednesday that Iran would "strongly respond" to any violation of its territory.

"Our airspace is our red line and Iran has always responded and will continue to respond strongly to any country that violates our airspace," the semi-official Tasnim news agency quoted the secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security council as saying.

Thursday's shootdown comes amid heightened tensions between Iran and the United States after President Donald Trump last year pulled out of a historic 2015 nuclear deal between Tehran and major powers and reimposed sanctions on the country.

The US military has sent forces, including aircraft carriers, B-52 bombers and troops to the Middle East. However, Trump said he does not seek war with Iran.
 
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solarz

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Indeed. Mistakes like this send the message that violent chaotic protests get things done and herald a future filled with them. When they protest, Lam should have removed the concessions previously made to them and expedited the bill. That will show them what tearing up bricks from the ground and throwing them at police can do. Injure the police? Armour vehicle coming your way. No violent protest should ever be rewarded in any way. If these people want to send the message that the population of Hong Kong is too unruly to control then Beijing should send 10 million from the mainland and see what the new population looks like now. Lam should step down and Beijing should send someone really hard-line. These brainwashed fools are absolutely miserable, trying to create a safe haven in China for Chinese criminals.

I get the feeling Beijing is using Hong Kong as a quarantine zone for foreign subversive activities. Hong Kong is relatively isolated so there is little risk of any subversive sentiment spreading to the rest of the country, and would be easy to pacify if push comes to shove. In the mean time, Beijing can study the methods of those foreign NGOs and how to manage and counter their influence on a susceptible population.
 

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After General Hossein Salami, the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, said the incident sent "a clear message" to the US,"
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Trump says Iranian downing of US drone may have been unintentional

    • President Trump says Iran may not have intentionally downed an unmanned U.S. surveillance drone.
    • U.S. officials said earlier that an Iranian missile had shot down an American drone over the Strait of Hormuz. Iran claimed that the drone was above its territory.
    • The president suggested that the incident may have been unintended and done by someone who was “loose and stupid.” He declined to rule out talks with the country, saying he would see what happens.
If it came down in the strait so much for salvage by the Iranians.
Well that will have to depend on who's lying. If the wreckage is in international waters, it will probably be very difficult for Iran to try to find it with all the aggressive US activity around. If it came down a mile away from an Iranian beach, not so much. By the way, the Strait of Hormuz is about 60-80 meters deep at the point that the US says its drone was downed but if they were lying and it was closer to Iran's coast even by a little bit, the dept there quickly drops to less than 40 meters so I would say that recovery shouldn't be too difficult based on depth.
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This video at 0:38 contains the map showing where the US says its drone was downed.
 
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