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xypher

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This pmc is weird. Last time we had an exchange about the development level of semiconductor industry in Europe. The discussion was run into the ground by him when he started to make some strange arguments, like Europe and Russia have very deep semiconductor technologies due to CERN (Russia because he said a lot of Russians and East Europeans are working there). I was at a loss what to make of him and his arguments.

His latest arguments about China can't compete with the US/West because China "can't even control Asia" or something of that nature is again, weird. I could give him a thorough education on why China has attracted all sorts of investments, R&D labs and people in the world, and best of all, the largest talent pool in the world, the well-educated Chinese themselves. Judging from his track records and understanding of such matters, it's mostly going to be a waste of time.
He is basically a Russian version of Sleepy Student, I'm surprised that he has not been called out earlier. Russia is going to replace TSMC soon but has to pay millions to hire and relocate Taiwanese UMC engineers to run 90-130 nm fabs... Jai Russia 2020.
 

pmc

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He is basically a Russian version of Sleepy Student, I'm surprised that he has not been called out earlier. Russia is going to replace TSMC soon but has to pay millions to hire and relocate Taiwanese UMC engineers to run 90-130 nm fabs... Jai Russia 2020.
Do you really think a country that spent $300B on Nuclear reactors and $600b on weopon procurement and trillions with T on energy projects cannot assemble global Phds to run fabs when majority of people are the people who created this semiconductors chains.

Koreans know this things thats why they are the first in line for Russian projects.
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xypher

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Do you really think a country that spent $300B on Nuclear reactors and $600b on weopon procurement and trillions with T on energy projects cannot assemble global Phds to run fabs when majority of people are the people who created this semiconductors chains.
LMAO. The delusion is strong with this Russian Student. I guess I should not ask you for citations because you ignored me asking for them every single time since you are just making up fairy tales.

Meanwhile, keep hiring those Taiwanese specialists from UMC so that they can teach Russian engineers how to run 90-130 nm fabs. Semiconductor superpower 2022.
Koreans know this things thats why they are the first in line for Russian projects.
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Wow, Koreans bought LNG from Russia. Jai Russia!

Wow, look there's another superpower - Qatar. Koreans know things that's why they are the first in line for Qatari projects:
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Jai Qatar, superpower 2021!
 

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Do you really think a country that spent $300B on Nuclear reactors and $600b on weopon procurement and trillions with T on energy projects cannot assemble global Phds to run fabs when majority of people are the people who created this semiconductors chains.

Koreans know this things thats why they are the first in line for Russian projects.
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You are incoherent. What does "billions on weapons and trillions on energy projects" have anything to do with semiconductors?

Have you seen how much money China has thrown to semiconductors since the 2000s?
It wasn't until that idiot Trump (god bless him) sanctioned the private companies that they finally started to seriously develop the IC industry

What Russia wants to do with semiconductors is impossible because you also need international talent which is willing to come to Russia, and a gigantic domestic market to sustain R&D (only US, China, EU have this)


Now if you are only talking about having fabs (only a part of the IC industry) then maybe something can be done if Russia decides to plug into the Chinese supply chain ecosystem. Otherwise, if it wants to do everything by its own, it is impossible.
 

pmc

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LMAO. The delusion is strong with this Russian Student. I guess I should not ask you for citations because you ignored me asking for them every single time since you are just making up fairy tales.

Meanwhile, keep hiring those Taiwanese specialists from UMC so that they can teach Russian engineers how to run 90-130 nm fabs. Semiconductor superpower 2022.
that is minor project that need some extra engineers. it has nothing to do with overall Russia projects to create independent lithography chain.
Wow, Koreans bought LNG from Russia. Jai Russia!

Wow, look there's another superpower - Qatar. Koreans know things that's why they are the first in line for Qatari projects:
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Jai Qatar, superpower 2021!
Is there Korean president statement hailing Qatar LNG? you are going to wake up to a rude awakening on energy prices. There is Russian screws behind Arabs.
 

xypher

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You are incoherent. What does "billions on weapons and trillions on energy projects" have anything to do with semiconductors?

Have you seen how much money China has thrown to semiconductors since the 2000s?
It wasn't until that idiot Trump (god bless him) sanctioned the private companies that they finally started to seriously develop the IC industry

What Russia wants to do with semiconductors is impossible because you also need international talent which is willing to come to Russia, and a gigantic domestic market to sustain R&D (only US, China, EU have this)


Now if you are puprely talking about fabs then maybe something can be done if Russia decides to plug into the Chinese supply chain ecosystem. Otherwise, if it wants to do everything by its own, it is impossible.
He is Jai Russian. They are like Jai Hindus - can create every single technology in no time using Vedic... I mean Slavic science.

To pmc:
that is minor project that need some extra engineers. it has nothing to do with overall Russia projects to create independent lithography chain.
Sure-sure, this is a minor project that will be on par with the top-end Russian fab technologies available since Mikron can only produce 65 nm at low volume. Jai Russia. Btw, Russia will not create an independent lithography chain, you can cite me after a few years.
Is there Korean president statement hailing Qatar LNG? you are going to wake up to a rude awakening on energy prices. There is Russian screws behind Arabs.
Ah, irreplaceable Australian beef strikes again. Why some white people are always keen to play this card on the most mundane of products?

Btw, South Koreans hailed not only Qatar LNG but achievements across the board, so one more reason why Qatar is superpower 2021!
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pmc

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You are incoherent. What does "billions on weapons and trillions on energy projects" have anything to do with semiconductors?

Have you seen how much money China has thrown to semiconductors since the 2000s?
It wasn't until that idiot Trump (god bless him) sanctioned the private companies that they finally started to seriously develop the IC industry

What Russia wants to do with semiconductors is impossible because you also need international talent which is willing to come to Russia, and a gigantic domestic market to sustain R&D (only US, China, EU have this)


Now if you are puprely talking about fabs then maybe something can be done if Russia decides to plug into the Chinese supply chain ecosystem. Otherwise, if it wants to do everything by its own, it is impossible.
i am not sure from where you get this information. Russia is very different level once it want to enter into field. it goes 100%.
Only Russian alone can create engine that can pass latest Swiss emission certificate. All other countries will have to create joint ventures.
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