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Lithuania is showing the world a way to resist China's growing pressure by diversifying supply chains and uniting with fellow democracies, the EU nation's foreign minister said Wednesday.

One of the smallest EU nations, Lithuania has been punching above its weight diplomatically by letting Taiwan open an office in its own name and, separately, welcoming the opposition from neighboring Belarus which says it won last year's election.

On a visit to Washington, Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said he spoke to senior US officials on Lithuania's efforts to reduce reliance on China for supplies and called for longer-term efforts to help other nations facing pressure.

"I think that the biggest lesson out of Lithuania is that economic coercion does not necessarily mean that the country needs to step away from independent foreign policy decisions,"...

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lithuania will adapt to "short-term" economic pain dealt by China over its moves to enhance ties with Taiwan, foreign minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said on Wednesday, while urging Europe to brace against Beijing's economic "coercion" by getting more involved in the Indo-Pacific.

China downgraded diplomatic ties with Lithuania on Sunday over the Baltic country's move to allow self-ruled Taiwan to open a de facto embassy there. Lithuania has formal relations with China and not Taiwan.

Beijing views democratically-governed Taiwan as a province, and Lithuanian officials say China has also sought to inflict pain such as cutting trade links in retaliation for its decision...


--->It seems that this US vassal/satellite state in Europe has placed its bets on its Neocon/Neolib overlords in Washington DC.


What will China do ?
Let the European economy as a collective collapse of course, by their own stupid hands given all the issues that are causing with Russia when Russia is providing their gas. Really, you can’t make this up, if Tussia gets pushed too far and finally goes against Ukraine, what makes you think that Lithuania is going to be remotely safe given the proximity. It is almost a matter of time when all the actions of Europe and the USA not only catch up to them, but then will come a situation when they will ultimately have to either come and beg for help or simply let the long feared collapse via hyperinflation take hold for good
 
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taxiya

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I can't believe Benedict Wong is from Hong Kong. He looks like Mongolian with his huge face
Han Chinese has all the features of all east Asian population groups because Han Chinese is a snow-ball "swallowing" neighbouring populations in the past 4000 years (I count from Shang Dynasty which originated from morden day Liao Ning, South eastern Inner-Mongolia, Beijing and northern Hebei). Lots of Khitan, a proto-Mongol people were "forced" by Kublai (a Mongol) into Han Chinese in late 1200s. Also the earlier Xianbei people (another proto-Mongol) voluntarily made themselves Han Chinese.

So although Chinese minorities may possess some typical features, these features are also common within Han Chinese making these features rather regional than ethnical.
 
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Crang

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Han Chinese has all the features of all east Asian population groups because Han Chinese is a snow-ball "swallowing" neighbouring populations in the past 4000 years (I count from Shang Dynasty which originated from morden day Liao Ning, South eastern Inner-Mongolia, Beijing and northern Hebei). Lots of Khitan, a proto-Mongol people were "forced" by Kublai (a Mongol) into Han Chinese in late 1200s. Also the earlier Xianbei people (another proto-Mongol) voluntarily made themselves Han Chinese.

So although Chinese minorities may possess some typical features, these features are also common within Han Chinese making these features rather regional than ethnical.
Low on Jomon features. You can't really find Takeshi Kaneshiro or Hiroshi Abe's features in Han.

Or Shinzo Abe and Moon Jae In. Their features are very... Altaic?

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Kim Ji Won and Ayaka Miyoshi have these 'Altaic' features which are rare in Han population
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It's almost as though they have some Hungarian features
 
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supersnoop

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I fear that these US satellite states (i.e.: Baltic states , Ukraine, etc.) might pull of a Georgia 2008 and drag Russia into a war along with China. Given their intense hatred of Russia, I would not be surprised they would attempt such a foolish move. Are the leaders of the nations all insane ?
In short, yes they are.

War in Georgia was devastating to that country, losing for good the territory of South Ossetia and could've been worse if Russia had not decided they learned their lesson.

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This is an article written by an American NGO almost 10 years ago. The economy of Ukraine has not really improved. As noted in the article, Ukrainian industrial goods are not competitive with EU then, so they certainly are not now. If anything, the situation has gotten worse since they lost actual land territory such as Crimea and Donbass region. So despite the lesson taught in Georgia, Ukraine followed a policy of self-destruction anyway.

The only other answer is that they are just puppets. It doesn't take a Mensa member to figure out that consequences can be severe if you piss off your much bigger neighbor who supplies you electricity and heat so you would only do it at someone's urging.
 

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Low on Jomon features. You can't really find Takeshi Kaneshiro or Hiroshi Abe's features in Han.

Or Shinzo Abe and Moon Jae In. Their features are very... Altaic?

It's almost as though they have some Hungarian features

I'm from HK Canto, ethnic Han.

When I'm skinny during military time, my HK friends say I look Vietnamese.

When I am fat during undergrad, my HK friends say I look Korean.

Thai people think I look Thai, Korean people think I look Korean/Japanese/

Honestly, depending on your haircut and weight (BMI), you can look like different East Asian ethnicity.
 

Temstar

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Han Chinese has all the features of all east Asian population groups because Han Chinese is a snow-ball "swallowing" neighbouring populations in the past 4000 years (I count from Shang Dynasty which originated from morden day Liao Ning, South eastern Inner-Mongolia, Beijing and northern Hebei). Lots of Khitan, a proto-Mongol people were "forced" by Kublai (a Mongol) into Han Chinese in late 1200s. Also the earlier Xianbei people (another proto-Mongol) voluntarily made themselves Han Chinese.

So although Chinese minorities may possess some typical features, these features are also common within Han Chinese making these features rather regional than ethnical.
On this point, historical enemies of China have all without fail either:
  • assimilated by China, adding their cultural and genetic diversity to what's considered "Chinese"
  • or for the lack of a better word: gone
The Manchus were the ruling class of China not even 200 years ago, and now their language is dead and they are all but unrecognisable apart from any regular han chinese.

Looking further back you have Khitan (hilariously the name Russians still use to refer to China, hence Su-30 MKK), Xiongnu, Xianbei, Jie and more, all of them have disappeared in the river of time with some help from the powers from Central Plain. One wonders should this pattern hold, where would countries like the US or Japan be in 500 years time.
 

taxiya

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Low on Jomon features. You can't really find Takeshi Kaneshiro or Hiroshi Abe's features in Han.

Or Shinzo Abe and Moon Jae In. Their features are very... Altaic?

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Kim Ji Won and Ayaka Miyoshi have these 'Altaic' features which are rare in Han population
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It's almost as though they have some Hungarian features
No offence, but how many places in China have you been? :) I don't see any of the above people any specially non east Asian (Han) look. Check out Daniel Wu whose parents are both native Han Chinese from Shanghai. Or my own grand father (mother side) and my own father may look very "non Han" in your eyes, even though we have never had known "non han" ancestry, we keep ancestry book. And personally, I have been told by two Iranians to look like the Hazaras in Iran (also in Afghanistan). ;)

A "bragging" by myself, I have travelled to Liaoning, Xinjiang, Gansu, Ningxia, Sichuan, Guangdong, Fujian, Shanghai, Zhejiang, Henan and Shaanxi. I can say that I have met enough people of different ancestry from enough regions to know what I am saying.
 
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Crang

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No offence, but how many places in China have you been? :) I don't see any of the above people any specially non east Asian (Han) look. Check out Daniel Wu whose parents are both native Han Chinese from Shanghai. Or my own grand father (mother side) and my own father may look very "non Han" in your eyes, even though we have never had known "non han" ancestry, we keep ancestry book. And personally, I have been told by two Iranians to look like the Hazaras in Iran (also in Afghanistan). ;)

A "bragging" by myself, I have travelled to Liaoning, Xinjiang, Gansu, Ningxia, Sichuan, Guangdong, Fujian, Shanghai, Zhejiang, Henan and Shaanxi. I can say that I have met enough people of different ancestry from enough regions to know what I am saying.
I've been to Hong Kong Xinjiang Beijing Gansu etc.

So a few weeks ago, world anthropology released a study indicating that Jomon genes penetrated further into East Asia than previously thought. However it is clear the Japanese archipelago received the highest exposure to Jomon genes.

The haplogroup difference is genetically and empirically measurable.

I understand you guys disagree with. I know I am of a minority opinion. I still stand by my minority opinion. That there are phenotypal differences. I know the majority will disagree with me. I still stand by it. I've lived in different parts of East Asia including Beijing and Seoul so my own observations fuel my opinion.

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Look at King Kohei. He is 100% Japanese haplogroup genes. His eyes are inset further.

Feel free to disagree.

I have a Manchurian friend though and I would say Manchurians are the closest genetically to Koreans.
 
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