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Bellum_Romanum

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lol, strategic ambiguity is de facto dead
I don't think this is a laughing matter tbh. The U.S. lawmakers and the U.S. politicians along with their "Failperts" have simply lost touched with reality and the consequences of what A REAL WAR looks like and what can happen to their overhyped military going against an almost near peer adversary in China and Russia.

I don't know if you think China and Xi are being a p...y because it's still unable to flex or even drop the hammer down a.k.a. start a military conflict in defense of Chinese sovereignity over Taiwan despite the many in-your-face provocations by the "Let's Go Brandon" administration. Is the reluctance of Xi pressing for military case in Taiwan due to the enormous economic implications for both China and Taiwan, not to mention the potential loss of Chinese lives in both places. What's the strategic picture and environment in the world for China post-conflict.

The U.S. in my opinion has not thought the worst case scenarios not just for it's military and country but for the world as a whole. A conflict between China and the U.S. due to blatant U.S. provocations will cause untold damage and suffering to the world. I think we ought to be circumspect and sober, not to mention realistic that the outcome of the war will be terrible for humanity period and that China and the core of Chinese leadership's actions are quite restraint and for obvious reasons. But if such actions (constant visits from U.S. politicians) are being done to the point that public pressure combined with the need to show resolve and action from the Chinese public the CPC will have to take action come what may then what?

America and the Americans for some messed up reason can't really help to rid itself from it's addiction of military misadventurism. It can't and will not accept that it's role in the world along with her power have been diminishing and is no longer the world hegemonic power. God help us all.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Lithuania is showing the world a way to resist China's growing pressure by diversifying supply chains and uniting with fellow democracies, the EU nation's foreign minister said Wednesday.

One of the smallest EU nations, Lithuania has been punching above its weight diplomatically by letting Taiwan open an office in its own name and, separately, welcoming the opposition from neighboring Belarus which says it won last year's election.

On a visit to Washington, Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said he spoke to senior US officials on Lithuania's efforts to reduce reliance on China for supplies and called for longer-term efforts to help other nations facing pressure.

"I think that the biggest lesson out of Lithuania is that economic coercion does not necessarily mean that the country needs to step away from independent foreign policy decisions,"...

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lithuania will adapt to "short-term" economic pain dealt by China over its moves to enhance ties with Taiwan, foreign minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said on Wednesday, while urging Europe to brace against Beijing's economic "coercion" by getting more involved in the Indo-Pacific.

China downgraded diplomatic ties with Lithuania on Sunday over the Baltic country's move to allow self-ruled Taiwan to open a de facto embassy there. Lithuania has formal relations with China and not Taiwan.

Beijing views democratically-governed Taiwan as a province, and Lithuanian officials say China has also sought to inflict pain such as cutting trade links in retaliation for its decision...


--->It seems that this US vassal/satellite state in Europe has placed its bets on its Neocon/Neolib overlords in Washington DC.


What will China do ?
Lithuania's Faustian bargain with the U.S. in destroying Chinese trade ($357.76M 2020) in exchange for American security was made due to the Russian threat which is it's most immediate foreign policy security threat not to mention that it's practically a vassal state of the U.S. since it's also a member of NATO since 2004.

What would China do? Just stop trading with that country and if Lithuania sends whatever meager force it can muster thousands (8,291 km) of km to Taiwan then they'll be simply be sent home in bits and pieces. Lithuania is an insignificant country barking like a mad chihuahua seeking for attention and approval from it's master (U.S.) by being antagonistic towards the Dragon. China isn't in the business of being stuck on stupid by trying to threaten some sort of military action against a useless country.
 

9dashline

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I don't think this is a laughing matter tbh. The U.S. lawmakers and the U.S. politicians along with their "Failperts" have simply lost touched with reality and the consequences of what A REAL WAR looks like and what can happen to their overhyped military going against an almost near peer adversary in China and Russia.

I don't know if you think China and Xi are being a p...y because it's still unable to flex or even drop the hammer down a.k.a. start a military conflict in defense of Chinese sovereignity over Taiwan despite the many in-your-face provocations by the "Let's Go Brandon" administration. Is the reluctance of Xi pressing for military case in Taiwan due to the enormous economic implications for both China and Taiwan, not to mention the potential loss of Chinese lives in both places. What's the strategic picture and environment in the world for China post-conflict.

The U.S. in my opinion has not thought the worst case scenarios not just for it's military and country but for the world as a whole. A conflict between China and the U.S. due to blatant U.S. provocations will cause untold damage and suffering to the world. I think we ought to be circumspect and sober, not to mention realistic that the outcome of the war will be terrible for humanity period and that China and the core of Chinese leadership's actions are quite restraint and for obvious reasons. But if such actions (constant visits from U.S. politicians) are being done to the point that public pressure combined with the need to show resolve and action from the Chinese public the CPC will have to take action come what may then what?

America and the Americans for some messed up reason can't really help to rid itself from it's addiction of military misadventurism. It can't and will not accept that it's role in the world along with her power have been diminishing and is no longer the world hegemonic power. God help us all.
ive outlined it elsewhere, but war or no war, China needs to decouple from US for its own survival....

In the postPeak world, propping up the fat useless eater middle man will only drag China down and drown China with America's sinking ship

America was never going to gracefully decline without a kinetic fight, anyone who thought otherwise are ignorant of US history (btw Happy "we killed your people and stole you land" Day!)

God wont help you, pretty pray to Xi DaDa that CCP makes the right moves for the sake of all mankind and even all lifeforms on planet earth
 

Laviduce

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Lithuania's Faustian bargain with the U.S. in destroying Chinese trade ($357.76M 2020) in exchange for American security was made due to the Russian threat which is it's most immediate foreign policy security threat not to mention that it's practically a vassal state of the U.S. since it's also a member of NATO since 2004.

What would China do? Just stop trading with that country and if Lithuania sends whatever meager force it can muster thousands (8,291 km) of km to Taiwan then they'll be simply be sent home in bits and pieces. Lithuania is an insignificant country barking like a mad chihuahua seeking for attention and approval from it's master (U.S.) by being antagonistic towards the Dragon. China isn't in the business of being stuck on stupid by trying to threaten some sort of military action against a useless country.
I fear that these US satellite states (i.e.: Baltic states , Ukraine, etc.) might pull of a Georgia 2008 and drag Russia into a war along with China. Given their intense hatred of Russia, I would not be surprised they would attempt such a foolish move. Are the leaders of the nations all insane ?
 

escobar

Banned Idiot
I don't think this is a laughing matter tbh. The U.S. lawmakers and the U.S. politicians along with their "Failperts" have simply lost touched with reality and the consequences of what A REAL WAR looks like and what can happen to their overhyped military going against an almost near peer adversary in China and Russia.
Nah, They have not lost touched with reality but are slowly creating a new reality. That overhyped military still scare PLA...
 

9dashline

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Nah, They have not lost touched with reality but are slowly creating a new reality. That overhyped military still scare PLA...
The new reality is that no matter what US does or doesnt do, Taiwan is going to reunify with mainland China soon, one way or another, regardless of what fantasy land the US and its vassals have they heads buried into....
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I fear that these US satellite states (i.e.: Baltic states , Ukraine, etc.) might pull of a Georgia 2008 and drag Russia into a war along with China. Given their intense hatred of Russia, I would not be surprised they would attempt such a foolish move. Are the leaders of the nations all insane ?
It's an overestimation of the U.S. primacy in military, technology, and economy that's blinding these idiots into war against both Russia and China. Not to mention that these countries leaders have been largely educated, idolized, and their world views shaped, molded from a purely American way of thinking plain and simple. The fact that these eastern European countries and the continent of Europe as a whole share cultural and ethnic backgrounds with the U.S. certainly adds more to the strength of their attachment to the U.S.

Russia on the other hand is sometimes derided with racist nonsensical attack as the offspring of the Mongolian horde (Asian) which is akin to barbarism and unsophistication of it's overall history unlike those of western Europe. Then you have China whose own history and knowledge in Europe was seen or appreciated in a sort of nostalgic and with touch of pity when it collapsed from how it was imagined by the Europeans. And now that China has gained it's place in the world for obvious reasons it's causing concern in Europe because they can feel that the future of the world may not be in the hands of the Europeans of their likewise mates in America, and perhaps the future will be firmly shaped and led by a non-European entity for the first time in 500 years. That's a reality most people in Europe regardless of their politics find unsettling and discomforting.
 

escobar

Banned Idiot
The new reality is that no matter what US does or doesnt do, Taiwan is going to reunify with mainland China soon, one way or another, regardless of what fantasy land the US and its vassals have they heads buried into....
Soon? You may be the one losing touch with reality...
 

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