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Nobaron

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Donkey drinks after making water dirty. Western super knowledgeable super intelligent people will come to reasoning after thinking through every route of entire globe.

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The moment When "experts" switch from "lehman moment" to "Even in Evergrande's home province, the developer is insignificant to Guangdong's vast local economy — it is not too big to fail." You know the "koolapse" kool aid bottle is nearly running empty.

So folks, it's popcorn time.
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Or popcorn moment, whatever you want to call it.
 

ansy1968

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Now those in mainland China cannot have outbound trips due to the pandemic, no wonder if many have instead visited the vast land of the westernmost part of China, Xinjiang. With population of 1446 million, the number of the domestic tourists is not something out of touch at all.

My wife and myself have been planned to visit Xinjiang for sightseeing before the pandemic but due to the offered tour did not fit our wanted points of destinations there we still postponed the trip. One day when thing gets back to normal, we still wanna realize the dreamed trip to the exotic land of the ancient Silk Road. Indeed if one likes history, culture and nature he should like a journey to visit Xinjiang!
@windsclouds2030 bro its memorable, from Lanzhou to Urumqi by bullet train stopping in between to see the Rainbow Mountain then experience a caravan along the silk road, to Turpan after that to Huo Yuan Shan the hottest place in China then taste the food , grapes and watermelon and of course beautiful Xinjiang women. Ahh!!!! I want to go back again cause I only stay 1 day in Urumqi and want to explore the western part.
 

windsclouds2030

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Chinese official diplomatic approach is best summed up as, the dragon does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep.

The job of Chinese officials when they speak on behalf of the state is to express the wishes and opinion of the state in as clear and precise a way as possible, and in a matter in keeping with the dignity of their office. It is not their job to try to speak hip or tailor its tone to appease to any foreign tastes because it’s not their job to sell China’s official position to anyone. They tell you what China’s position is, and you ignore or dismiss it at your own cost. Just ask the Australians and Lithuanians how much petty wordplay and pedantic arguments matter.

It’s the same with Chinese official policy. Often it doesn’t do tit for tat because it views meaninglessly petty actions designed purely to cause annoyance as below its position. But do not for one second think that a lack of immediate receptivity is a sign of acceptance or acquiesce. China had merely decided what you have done so far is not worthy of its response, but it has not forgotten and is tallying your bill up. Once enough has accumulated to be worthy of response, China will repay the bill with interest.

China is behaving like a superpower, not a common street thug. It can afford to do that because it has the hard power necessary to play by its own rules. Little powers need to learn how to play China’s game or they will get spanked hard until they do.

That’s the big leagues of how world leading powers behave. Not the class clown antics of what is being pass off as leadership and gravitas now.

In the face of all kinds of false accusations and disturbance, we need to respond calmly and expose disinformation with facts. But the most important thing is to be determined to do our own things well. If we don’t fall on our own, we won’t be overthrown by anyone.

~
Li Xiaosi @li_xiaosi - Chinese Ambassador to Austria
 
PR war? LOL you guys must be joking.

The world's biggest media outlets are owned by the West. Murdoch, Reuters, Twitter, FB, Youtube.

They literally control what 82% of the world's population sees, hears, and reads.

You guys really think China can win a "PR war" against this?

Xi Jinping could be making speeches denouncing American war crimes 24/7 and the average person outside of China would never hear of it.

This is the power of Capital.

Only fools fight battles they can't win.

Let's be honest here, it's not that people outside China(West) hasn't heard of US's crimes, it's that they don't care and will spin anything in their favour to try and justify it.

You lose any domain you don't contest, or ofcourse poorly contest. PR is just a fancy way to say speak your point of view and it is really everyone's right and duty to speak their point of view. Otherwise others will make up or pervert your point of view in their own minds according to their own thoughts.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Chinese official diplomatic approach is best summed up as, the dragon does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep.

The job of Chinese officials when they speak on behalf of the state is to express the wishes and opinion of the state in as clear and precise a way as possible, and in a matter in keeping with the dignity of their office. It is not their job to try to speak hip or tailor its tone to appease to any foreign tastes because it’s not their job to sell China’s official position to anyone. They tell you what China’s position is, and you ignore or dismiss it at your own cost. Just ask the Australians and Lithuanians how much petty wordplay and pedantic arguments matter.

It’s the same with Chinese official policy. Often it doesn’t do tit for tat because it views meaninglessly petty actions designed purely to cause annoyance as below its position. But do not for one second think that a lack of immediate receptivity is a sign of acceptance or acquiesce. China had merely decided what you have done so far is not worthy of its response, but it has not forgotten and is tallying your bill up. Once enough has accumulated to be worthy of response, China will repay the bill with interest.

China is behaving like a superpower, not a common street thug. It can afford to do that because it has the hard power necessary to play by its own rules. Little powers need to learn how to play China’s game or they will get spanked hard until they do.

That’s the big leagues of how world leading powers behave. Not the class clown antics of what is being pass off as leadership and gravitas now.
Thank you for this post since it clearly showed the fallacy of my previous post decrying China’s PR deficiency.
 
I don't think @escobar is inherently anti-China or pro-China or even pro-west/America on this great game currently unfolding. Perhaps we should ask @escobar what actions he would have preferred China taken giving the current circumstances the country is dealing with and why his policy recommendations and actions have the probability of attaining the desired effect that in his mind China has failed or continuously failed to capitalize and pounce on to create the desired outcome.

He is not anti-China or Pro-China. He likes the kim jong un PR approach.
He'd love it if China fires 1 or 2 missiles across Australia. LOL.
 

Laviduce

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Not sure if already posted but:

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Under Investigation has put together a war table of experts to forecast how we participate and ultimately survive if a war comes to fruition between China and the United States.

 
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