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Petrolicious88

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The US delusions are interesting to witness.

The CMC totally believed the US general that it wouldn't attack China, yeah sure..

The moment General Li, put down the phone, he probably ordered the nuclear weapons, and balistic missiles to get ready lol

Only idiots would believe the US. China merely gave it lip-service and continued its war preparations
Exactly. Chairman of JSC tells you his military won’t attack you unless given advanced notice, loll. Then the books says general Li took him at his word. Sounds like total BS.

In the real world China would prob have interpreted this as a diversion tactic, and immediately went on alert.
 

plawolf

Brigadier
Strange story with probably some disinfo. The most important is this : Milley call Li because he has seen intel that CHina expected / preparing for a U.S. attack. If true, what it say about US intel capability to know what is happening inside CN/PLA? PRC was watching the US with concern over the last year but that they really thought US was preparing to strike? Strike what? If they were falsely convinced US were a trigger pull away from starting a war, what it say about PRC ability to rightly judge US actions or PLA intel apparatus capability? Wars can start from miscalculations. Or Maybe the two generals were probably talking about deconflicting here because they were just skeptical to the degree they/their intel were worried about a possible military action.
We will never know what really happen or even if something serious really happen

There you go dreaming about western dominance again. The US almost certainly doesn’t have any extra special asset high in the PLA top echelon command staff as you are hoping. They could have easily and far more conclusively deduced PLA intentions via Chinese force deployments and alert status, all of which could be easily see via satellite reconnaissance.

When you see significant PLAN assets amassing and steaming into the SCS; with regional PLAAF units moving into high combat alert readiness, it doesn’t take take a genius to figure out what that means.

If it is true that Milley went to such lengths to try to reassure the PLA, then it’s almost a certainty that the PLA was bringing overwhelming forces to bear, and that had Trump been idiotic enough to order a strike, the Chinese counter attack would have resulted in the total destruction of US forces involved.

Ordering the pacific command to postpone war games would have been another sign that America doesn’t have any special insight into the PLA high command since that is a clear indication that the US was unclear what precise response threshold China’s military was on. And that they were worried that the PLA would be on such a hair trigger that missile launches and/or massed aircraft scrambles from said war games would have been interpreted as the first steps of an US attack and caused the PLA to pull the trigger ‘in response’.
 

Gatekeeper

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You forget the power of propaganda to get people to act contrary to their own best interests.

How many times have we seen comedians do bits where they ask passionately animated protestors/supporters basic questions about the issue they are so passionate protesting about, only to get blank stares and painful silence back?

That has always been a fundamental weakness of democracy, that is why when democracy was first practiced by the ancient Greeks, only (educated) land owners could vote. As democracy was expanded to become universal suffrage, the problem was exacerbated since anyone with a pulse can vote. In any society, you are going to have exponential more idiots than smart people. So it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if you can corner the brainless idiot segment, you basically win democracy.

A free media is supposed to help safeguard against demagogues and such manipulation, but that in turn has been perverted and made into a tool of manipulation itself. A free media is meant to be a media free of political interference and undue bias. But that has been instead perverted to mean free for the rich to buy up and make into their own personal lobbying service.

It’s no accident that the west is currently experiencing the weird anti-education, anti-science regressive trends that we are seeing, because the less well educated the population, the easier it is to manipulate them into doing stupid things that benefit the elite even as they obliterate their own interests and welfare.

Brexit, the rise of Trump and vaccine hesitancy are just the most obvious headline grabbing recent examples. There are plenty more the deeper you look.

So, to sum up, interests are no longer eternal when the west is concerned because powerful vested interests can now fairly reliably manipulate western electorates to vote against their best interests.

Is this the kind of voters you had in mind? @plawolf

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Oh. That take my back. Strangely, I missed those free entertainment.
 

escobar

Brigadier
Strange story with probably some disinfo. The most important is this : Milley call Li because he has seen intel that CHina expected / preparing for a U.S. attack. If true, what it say about US intel capability to know what is happening inside CN/PLA? PRC was watching the US with concern over the last year but that they really thought US was preparing to strike? Strike what? If they were falsely convinced US were a trigger pull away from starting a war, what it say about PRC ability to rightly judge US actions or PLA intel apparatus capability? Wars can start from miscalculations. Or Maybe the two generals were probably talking about deconflicting here because they were just skeptical to the degree they/their intel were worried about a possible military action.
We will never know what really happen or even if something serious really happen
Seems to be just a routine call
 

escobar

Brigadier
There you go dreaming about western dominance again. The US almost certainly doesn’t have any extra special asset high in the PLA top echelon command staff as you are hoping.
Nice projection of your own hope. Who talk about any extra special asset high in the PLA? another projection
They could have easily and far more conclusively deduced PLA intentions via Chinese force deployments and alert status, all of which could be easily see via satellite reconnaissance.
More rational
When you see significant PLAN assets amassing and steaming into the SCS; with regional PLAAF units moving into high combat alert readiness, it doesn’t take take a genius to figure out what that means.

If it is true that Milley went to such lengths to try to reassure the PLA, then it’s almost a certainty that the PLA was bringing overwhelming forces to bear, and that had Trump been idiotic enough to order a strike, the Chinese counter attack would have resulted in the total destruction of US forces involved.

Ordering the pacific command to postpone war games would have been another sign that America doesn’t have any special insight into the PLA high command since that is a clear indication that the US was unclear what precise response threshold China’s military was on. And that they were worried that the PLA would be on such a hair trigger that missile launches and/or massed aircraft scrambles from said war games would have been interpreted as the first steps of an US attack and caused the PLA to pull the trigger ‘in response’.
Maybe, but just your own speculation like everyone is doing.
 

escobar

Brigadier
Woodward says in his book that China believed war was imminent.

It also said US intelligence detected signs that China believed it was about to be attacked. And that promoted JCS chairman to call his Chinese counterpart.

Yea this is Woodward exaggerating events and trying to sell his book.
I believe this is all part of the "ongoing war" against Trump. CN should support Trump so Dem and GOP are even more divided
 
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windsclouds2030

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The joke floating around is that Tsai must actually be 峨嵋峰.
I don't get it. What does Mt. Emei mean here?

And it looks like the conservatives may form the next government in Canada. All that Justin groveling and bending over backwards to the U.S. didn't do Jack shit in helping his election chances. Now the cu. T that is O'toole will not only produce 1 million new jobs by standing up to one of their biggest trading partner and consumer that is China. How in the f.. Ng world is he going to live up to that insane promise?
Please don't abbreviate too much, get difficulty to discern it...

cu is see you... but what's the "T that is O'toole..." there? just don't get it

f...Ng = fcuking
 

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