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weig2000

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Biden-Xi meeting when?

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Biden: "About buying these US Treasu..."
Xi: "Non"
Biden: About these tariffs"
Xi: "Yes"

It would probably be similar to the Anchorage meeting between Yang Jiechi + Wang Yi and Blinken + Sullivan. The latter didn't feel confident enough to talk to the Chinese side before they arranged a set of meetings with "like-minded" vassals such as QUAD, Japan & South Korea and issued a bunch of statements. Then they felt strong enough to sit down with the Chinese on home court and speak from "the position of strength." Boy, were they schooled!

This time, Biden has just traveled to the Europe and held a set of conferences and submits with some different sub-combinations of largely same group of "like-minded" allies & vassals and issued a bunch of statements and communiques. He even ventured out to hold a submit with Putin the dreaded Russia bear to create some semblance of driving a wedge between Russia and China. Now Biden feels enough confidence to meet Xi, again, from the same "position of strength." I do hope the atmosphere will be more cordial. After all, these are heads of state. There is no need to take the gloves off.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
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The possible talk is just a show that the two are not at hot war yet. There won't be any meaningful things out of it. Look at the recent meeting between Putin and Biden, or previous meeting between Xi and Trump.

I am struggling to figure out why Biden (and Trump) would want such meeting and why Xi (and Putin) would accept it. Everybody with some knowledge of world situation knows the reality.
 

Tyler

Captain
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The possible talk is just a show that the two are not at hot war yet. There won't be any meaningful things out of it. Look at the recent meeting between Putin and Biden, or previous meeting between Xi and Trump.

I am struggling to figure out why Biden (and Trump) would want such meeting and why Xi (and Putin) would accept it. Everybody with some knowledge of world situation knows the reality.
biden is now trying to isolate Xi. biden has invited Korea and Japan leaders to the US, then a series of meetings at G7, EU and then with Putin. But the most important meeting is supposed to be with Xi, the real leader of the world. The yankees are now so scared to meet face to face with the middle kingdom.
 
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Xizor

Captain
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The RMB moving up 10% would scare the crap out of the yankees.
It'll scare China too. It's best, for the time being, that RMB remains low compared to USD. China's recovery is bolstered largely by exports.

Can't have that recovery be threatened. Before the pandemic, Chinese economy was slowing down with cracks appearing in export growth ( largely thanks to trade war). The pandemic is offering China an opportunity to make drastic corrections.

The government trying to attack debt is indicative of the short window China has got to make some corrections without big repercussions.

Ten more years and then eulogy for USD can be written.
 

AssassinsMace

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Biden-Xi meeting when?

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Biden: "About buying these US Treasu..."
Xi: "Non"
Biden: About these tariffs"
Xi: "Yes"
As to also the discussion going on in the "Biden's potential China policy thread", this is all a dog and pony show of fakeness that the West is notorious for. If they didn't need China or if they think China is as weak as they believe, they don't need to talk to China. Biden talks to everyone else before China... classic tactic of Kurt Campbell who worked for Obama also in thinking first China is worried of being left out is more important to the Chinese than anything else and therefore it will surrender. Same philosophy of how TPP will reign in China under Obama. The Pivot to Asia also had the same tactic. Was Obama successful?

The Western world order is dependent on the US being the strongest while everyone else including allies are sucking off its teet. Westerners need to have the highest living standards in the world in order to manipulate the world into doing it their way. Nearly all of the US's official allies couldn't maintain their high-end lifestyles without making money from exports. The 2008 Western financial crisis exposed how Europe was spending more money than they make hence all the borrowing defaulting. And while this was going on the citizens of their own countries were rioting on the streets because governments were going to make cuts that would drastically affect social programs to maintain the very lifestyles they were use to. They have to sell as much as they can to others. Non-Western allied countries aren't going to have it easier when sucking up to the same system. Yes China upsets the Western world order as charged because the US isn't the only market in town now. 60% per cent of global chip production was sold to China meaning China in some economic sectors was a larger market than the rest of the world combined. The list of things where China is going to be the largest market than rest of the world is only going to get larger. Countries have China as an alternative which at its optimum will be bigger than the US to sell to which is why they even dare to bring up China dividing Europe and the US.

What has changed with the world with Biden as President? Absolutely nothing. Are they going spin nothing they got from Russia as something against China like they're exactly doing? Is it going to get Russia to attack China militarily like the US seems to think it can do with every other country they hope to pit against China sacrificing everything for the US because the US is too chicken to do it themselves? The US isn't expecting Russia to win because if they were, it's Russian in control of China not the US. So they exactly expect everyone they want to use against China to sacrifice everything hoping to weaken China and at no cost to the US. Yeah and if China wins, the US's relations with China are not as in a bad position as the country they manipulated to go against China. Such cowardice and yet the US makes itself the most honest leader of the world... The US portrays China as aggressive when they're bombing smaller countries around the world they perceive as threats to their interests. The US and the West doesn't have the money it takes to buy-off the world against China. The West set themselves up when they created this system of dependency on them to keep countries loyal to them. Even Western countries not the US are vulnerable because they need money just like all the other countries they try to pull in will need. Is having money mean they will always have money? No, they spend money and they need more something they aren't even immune to. And the only way they can make that money is selling to China. That requires them to have good relations with China which goes against the US being in control. What does the West have when China will be bigger than anything that they have. Democracy when it's under siege at home? Other than that lie that they use to entice the world to their favor, they have nothing. China isn't demanding countries to be like them in order to have friendly relations unlike what the US is demanding other countries to be "democratic" in order to have good relations with them. The West is worried autocracy is winning against democracy in the world. It's because they've shown how bad democracy is. Instead of improving themselves to show how democracy is better, they find it an easier path to eliminate China so that there is no comparison for the world to see.
 
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