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weig2000 said:

About two years ago, I was watching a think tank panel discussion on US-China economic and technology relationship. This was when the Trump trade war against China was on-going and tech war had started. The panelists discussed about the Made in 2025 and then about China's aviation ambition, COMAC and all that. One of the panelists, James Lewis from CSIS, who was often quoted by media and press on China tech affairs, said that the global civilian aircraft market is barely enough for two players, and China should not enter the competition.

I guess I was quite impressed by his frankness and honesty, with no usual code words or phrases such as government support, state subsidies and any such things.

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To be fair, he doesn't know any better. Boeing and Airbus are both inefficient messes. Boeing because of the MIC. Airbus is tired in to the European defence industry indirectly but also has its manufacturing divided into different countries.

The domestic Chinese market alone is enough to support an airline manufacturer. I doubt they'll ever be able to touch the NA/EU markets, maybe eastern Europe. But Chinese manufacturer could massively undercut both in the rest of the world.

siegecrossbow said:

Chinese independent media is little better (some times not) than Jai Hind media in terms of credibility. If something like this did happen, it would've been kept hush-hush and there is no way that some 2nd rate Japanese channel would've gotten wind of it.

That said, I wouldn't underestimate PLAAF's EW capabilities. A couple years back there was actual confirmed report of JMSDF scrambling dozens of F-15s to intercept a single PLAAF Y-8 (South Korea sent fighters as well).

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Not to mention if that actually happened, it would be a diplomatic incident. Fake news.

Abominable said:

To be fair, he doesn't know any better. Boeing and Airbus are both inefficient messes. Boeing because of the MIC. Airbus is tired in to the European defence industry indirectly but also has its manufacturing divided into different countries.

The domestic Chinese market alone is enough to support an airline manufacturer. I doubt they'll ever be able to touch the NA/EU markets, maybe eastern Europe. But Chinese manufacturer could massively undercut both in the rest of the world.

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My point merely being that the US is afraid of competition from China in any hi-tech industry. Government support or state subsidies are just excuses and code words.

weig2000 said:

My point merely being that the US is afraid of competition from China in any hi-tech industry. Government support or state subsidies are just excuses and code words.

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Gov subsidies is the dumbest excuse I have heard, think about which gov in the world doesn't hand out subsidies in sectors important to em? US hands out farm subsidies which is bad for cheaper markets of the region can they ban US products?... It's against "free Market" right?...

It's bonkers!!

As far as China I don't know what thier plans look like I mean you can't feed billion people with Hi-Tech industry

Maybe it's more focused towards Hi-Tech manufacturing and than service economy but still can China replace it's cheap manufacturing to elevate it's people to the next step

And I think if it's replacing cheap manufacturing than you shouldn't rely on "shared" "global" markets create a block

You can either have Chinese manufacturing or US one as China will only give these jobs to it's boock memebers /allies

But for that to happen question is

Has China reached an economic level where it "can" replace cheap manufacturing?

So this settles it: China did not raise the limit of radiation level near the nuclear plant (in order to continue operation). Only 5 nuclear rods leaked amount 60,000. The plant can be safely operated with 150 damaged fuel rods. The moral of the story: take anything from CNN with a huge pinch of salt.

China says no leak at nuclear plant, no change to detection standards​

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CNN reported on Monday that Framatome, the French company that designed the reactors, had said that China’s nuclear safety regulator had raised limits on permissible levels of radiation outside the plant in the southeastern province of Guangdong to avoid having to shut it down.

China’s Ministry of Ecology and Environment, which oversees the country’s nuclear safety watchdog, said on Wednesday that the allegation was “erroneous”.

It said the National Nuclear Safety Administration (NNSA) had reviewed specifications for noble gases used in the reactor coolant at Taishan, but this had “nothing to do with the detection of radiation outside the nuclear plant.”

An increase in radiation levels was detected in the primary circuit at Taishan’s Unit 1 reactor, but it was within the parameters for safe operations, the ministry said.

The increase was caused by damage to the cladding of a small number of fuel rods, which is normal during the production, transportation and loading of fuel, the ministry said on its Wechat social media account.

“Environmental monitoring in the vicinity of the Taishan plant found no abnormal parameters ... showing no leak has occurred at all,” the ministry said.

About five out of more than 60,000 fuel rods at the core of the Unit 1 reactor were estimated to have been damaged, amounting to less than 0.01% of the total, far below the maximum designed amount of 0.25%, it said.

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bluewater2012 said:

The U.S. Air Force’s RC-135U reconnaissance plane was in China. Under the pursuit and interception of the Air Force "Falcon 1", a very real aerial "cat and mouse game" was staged. The RC-135U reconnaissance aircraft was "throated" time and time again.

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It is not a bad piece of disinformation, designed to confuse and warn the others American friendly nations.

As we all know, no one can trust the Americans to tell the truth, so if the Chinese make a claim like this, then who will believe the American reassurances?

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This is how we know it is dezinformatsiya, or we probably can believe it is dezinformatsiya.

Once I saw on the internet, the Russians were making fun of the Jade Rabbit moon probe. Why would they do that? Maybe to make light of it, so that no one in Russia starts talking about the good old days of the Soviets space probes. How come the Chinese got one, and we don't got one, sort of thing. Distract the people from asking uncomfortable questions.

That is the purpose of dezinformatsiya, to try to make the masses believe in one thought, at that particular time. The Jade Rabbit, the Russians did not want to talk about it, in case someone makes a comparison. That's fine.

How the Russians made light of the Jade Rabbit, they claimed that the Jade Rabbit sounded funny in Russian. But here at this point, it was obvious this dezinformatsiya was dezinformatsiya, because the Russians deliberately used a wrong name for the Jade Rabbit. I forget what it was, but it was wrong. It was not correct.

Why use a wrong name, in official Russian publication, to describe the Jade Rabbit? Maybe it is to trick the Russian masses to not to take the Jade Rabbit seriously, and thereby they can avoid the topic altogether.


In this story, we have the Communist Chinese "Falcon-1" doing all sorts of maneuvers against American tech, and the Chinese had the better tech.

That should be dezinformatsiya, simply because of the fake name used, it sure seems fake.

But, with the American track record, who will believe American denials or reassurances, when the Americans say they are still ahead and not behind in this topic of military electronic warfare, people will be willingly tricked.

After all, what was the US government war against Huawei 5G all about?

Just my 2 cents, this is fairly effective dezinformatsiya effort by the Chinese. The target audience can be tricked, and some in the target audience knows this is disinformation but on other topics they know too it will not be disinformation. So it kind of works two ways, on the ignorant and on the informed. Hehe.

B.I.B. said:

My father reckons those were the days. It would have paid for a lot of large scoop of chips @sixpence and a piece of fish for thrupence deep fried and wrapped in newsprint and sharing it with his girlfriend as he doubled her home from school on his bike.

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Uh. Girlfriend at school? Cor, you father started young! Lol

But seriously, yes, I remember buying a packet of chips for 5p. So my £1.10 went a longer way than today's £1.10. But nonetheless, it still was hard work for pittance. Up 6 days a week, come rain snow or wind. Toiling in the cold for two hours putting up with people's dogs biting at your heel. Horrible letter boxes that feels like jaws that will snapped your fingers off if you're not careful.

This is why I appreciate all the hard working men and women out there, especially our Chinese people, and hated those used condoms who never done s hard days work in their life, yet they demand the world to be made in their idealist head.

supercat said:

The moral of the story: take anything from CNN with a huge pinch of salt.

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No. The moral of the story is that this French nuclear company should be kicked out from the country and/or have some executives jailed.

All nuclear-related things are a national security matter and this French company thought it was a great idea that it would go to the US and start talking about the state of the nuclear plant in China to its biggest enemy, the US.

^^This is the real scandal here. The matter should be investigated extensively to find out if the company had a legitimate cause of concern AND what it revealed to the US.

For CNN we all know what it is, Fake News

supercat said:

So this settles it: China did not raise the limit of radiation level near the nuclear plant (in order to continue operation). Only 5 nuclear rods leaked amount 60,000. The plant can be safely operated with 150 damaged fuel rods. The moral of the story: take anything from CNN with a huge pinch of salt.

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More like a tub of salt. Trump would agree too since CNN is always so salty about him.