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voyager1

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You make some good points but thus below is just plain wrong:

No, IMO China is doing a perfect job. I would rather having my potential enemies afraid of me, hating me than they approves me
Thats a nice story you have over here.

However, Xi himself, disagrees with you

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Xi Jinping told senior Communist Party officials it was important to present an image of a "credible, loveable and respectable China", according to a report by state-run news agency Xinhua.
"It is necessary to make friends, unite and win over the majority, and constantly expand the circle of friends [when it comes to] international public opinion," he was quoted by Xinhua as saying.

Xi had good intentions with his "wolf warrior" diplomacy but IMO he overdid it and has started backfiring now. This is why he making a complete U-turn now
 
You make some good points but thus below is just plain wrong:


Thats a nice story you have over here.

However, Xi himself, disagrees with you

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That's really only applicable to countries that at least have open minds and some neutrality allowed in their thinking process. These countries are actually interested in the reality rather than how to bend the reality into anti-China fiction. For countries that are hardened against China, whether it is by their own foolishness such as India or because they were forced to think this way under an American boot like South Korea, fear of China is the only option. Admiration and "loveable" public image, for those countries, only come after China has displaced the US as the premier global power. Of course nobody would make this speech naming the countries that it should target and the other countries that deserve a more muscular diplomacy.
 

taxiya

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Actually the Gypsies originate from India. They are typically viewed with suspicion in Europe because they are nomads and a lot of them have, let us say, less than honorable activities. A lot of them are just traveling merchants, but some sell stolen goods, or contraband, or illegal merchandise. Some are actual thieves. Women are often forced by their husbands or parents to beg on the street. Their communities are typically closed and they did not use to let their kids go to school and refused to carry identification.

There have been efforts to try to settle them and make them have regular occupations but this has had mixed results.
What you said is right. But that is not the point. It does not matter who has more fault (Gypsies or Europeans) in the failed integration. The west used Xinjiang and Tibet to attack China regardless the achievement China has achieved in bringing up the living standard of Uyghurs and Tibetans. The point is that matters like Gypsies social status can be used as ammo for a counter attack if China choose to do so regardless what the western population experience. It is tit for tat, 你做初一我做十五, feed one with his own medicine.
 

taxiya

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You make some good points but thus below is just plain wrong:


Thats a nice story you have over here.

However, Xi himself, disagrees with you

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Xi had good intentions with his "wolf warrior" diplomacy but IMO he overdid it and has started backfiring now. This is why he making a complete U-turn now
You misunderstood this "credible, loveable and respectable China" from Xi. The lovable image is for the friends, not for enemies. There is Chinese saying "朋友来了有好酒,豺狼来了有猎枪", translated to "we have wine for the friends, and a gun for the Jackals".

Chairman Mao said "革命的第一要务是分清敌我", translated to "The very first matter in revolution is to distinguish enemy from friend". Xi is certainly a good student of Mao, he is only hiding the tough side not to unnecessarily provoke the enemy like Mao and Deng did since the 1970s.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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First Japans' parliament ratifies RCEP:
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and then their PM says some stupid shit like this:

Apparently, this is Japan's style of balancing.
Suga wants to be known as Sugadoneit bad. F..ng moron. Japan's GDP has been shrinking since it's relative peak back in 2010 or 2014? What the heck is this d..b c..t trying to do? Relive it's imperialists glory? The Chinese hasn't forgotten that history and the Japanese cruelty imposed against China, so it's not difficult for Chinese patriots to view Japan in a very negative light in a quick second.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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You make some good points but thus below is just plain wrong:


Thats a nice story you have over here.

However, Xi himself, disagrees with you

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Xi had good intentions with his "wolf warrior" diplomacy but IMO he overdid it and has started backfiring now. This is why he making a complete U-turn now
Loveable isn't going to come from the colonial piglets and the howling anglosians for obvious reasons that you and most of us here on this forum are very much aware of. However, the part of the world that makes up the majority of the world’s population which is the "Developing countries" in Asia, Africa, Latin America are fertile grounds for that "loveable" image that Pres.Xi is trying to cultivate and strive for China where the wester exemplified by the U.S. can be contested heavily and has a chance of success.
 

voyager1

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You misunderstood this "credible, loveable and respectable China" from Xi. The lovable image is for the friends, not for enemies. There is Chinese saying "朋友来了有好酒,豺狼来了有猎枪", translated to "we have wine for the friends, and a gun for the Jackals".

Chairman Mao said "革命的第一要务是分清敌我", translated to "The very first matter in revolution is to distinguish enemy from friend". Xi is certainly a good student of Mao, he is only hiding the tough side not to unnecessarily provoke the enemy like Mao and Deng did since the 1970s.
So who are his enemies?

The Chinese have recently turned their gun against Germany calling them out for being Nazi in the past (in reaction to them sanctioning China for HK). You say we play fire against fire but this isnt working

So now China wants to turn Germany against it. So who is next? Only France is remaining

So turn these 2 countries against it means the whole EU against China

So US + EU vs China and a bunch of corrupt and self serving countries in Asia

I heavily doubt this will work.

China has a good strategy but it has misstepped on the EU.

For the US I dont care. It was destined that it would turn against China.

EU is important though. If EU and US join hands then thats big trouble for China

Ofc China has its own cards to play but it wouldn't come out of it unhurt

Anyway, IMO Xi is now U-turning not even for the EU but for ASEAN. And he needs to finally reform China's utterly idiotic media system. Nobody pays attention to them with how bad they are
 

taxiya

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You make some good points but thus below is just plain wrong:


Thats a nice story you have over here.

However, Xi himself, disagrees with you

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Xi had good intentions with his "wolf warrior" diplomacy but IMO he overdid it and has started backfiring now. This is why he making a complete U-turn now
To help you fully understand who Xi Jinping is, here is a true event. When he was on the back seat (vise president), during a visit, he said "有些西方人吃饱了撑的,对中国指手画脚", translated to "some westerners have a full belly, having nothing to do but attack China". What do you think of his true thought and intention with this attitude to the "some westerners"? You think he just changed his mind after being president like a teenager whose view of life is still shaping? He is only hiding his true mind when he is at the front seat under the lime light as all politicians and statesman do.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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So who are his enemies?

The Chinese have recently turned their gun against Germany calling them out for being Nazi in the past (in reaction to them sanctioning China for HK). You say we play fire against fire but this isnt working

So now China wants to turn Germany against it. So who is next? Only France is remaining

So turn these 2 countries against it means the whole EU against China

So US + EU vs China and a bunch of corrupt and self serving countries in Asia

I heavily doubt this will work.

China has a good strategy but it has misstepped on the EU.

For the US I dont care. It was destined that it would turn against China.

EU is important though. If EU and US join hands then thats big trouble for China

Ofc China has its own cards to play but it wouldn't come out of it unhurt

Anyway, IMO Xi is now U-turning not even for the EU but for ASEAN. And he needs to finally reform China's utterly idiotic media system. Nobody pays attention to them with how bad they are
You make it sound like the E.U. as an organization acts and thinks in some uniform fashion and has shown to have exact or enacted some meaningful plan of actions against it's closest perceived enemy that's Russia.

The E.U. virtue signaling efforts and gaslighting of China are no more effective than the trade war initiated by Trump. And how do you propose China adjusts or even caters to the whims and laughable demands from it's E.U. members? Last time I checked, the E.U. economic growth has been anemic at a paltry rate of 1.2% for the past decade or so while China's growth numbers are something that E.U. monkeys can only dream or wish of achieving.

The most important market and growing market that China must not and can't afford to disregard or allow further U.S. machinations is the ASEAN countries. There's enough economic studies that suggests and direct that future growth of world economy will come from that region. By growth and strength of it's population, young educated workers and the vibrancy of it's growing market ASEAN will become the most important and fertile engine of growth for the world and China being at the periphery knows this trend and reality which is why it held a meeting with the organization most recently.
 
So who are his enemies?
Who are American puppets? Figure it out.
The Chinese have recently turned their gun against Germany calling them out for being Nazi in the past (in reaction to them sanctioning China for HK).
Because they started BS with China on Xinjiang.
You say we play fire against fire but this isnt working
Then you go lick their shoes and see if it "works". Fire deserves greater fire from China regardless of whether it "works."
So now China wants to turn Germany against it.
Germany started trouble; China can only give it a befitting answer.
So who is next? Only France is remaining
And they shall remain if they continue good behavior.
So turn these 2 countries against it means the whole EU against China

So US + EU vs China and a bunch of corrupt and self serving countries in Asia

I heavily doubt this will work.
It has been working all along. The fractures between the US and EU are very recent, only with Trump. Before that, from a much weaker point, China has always been outgrowing and outmaneuvering the two combined.
China has a good strategy but it has misstepped on the EU.
Someone who is known for constant overreactions and incoherent stance is far from qualified to judge whether the CCP, the most successful government in the world, has mis-stepped.
For the US I dont care. It was destined that it would turn against China.

EU is important though. If EU and US join hands then thats big trouble for China

Ofc China has its own cards to play but it wouldn't come out of it unhurt
You are so easily swayed by current trends but fail to see historic trends. Hungary makes some small niceties and you declare them an eternal friend, which is also an overreaction. The truth is that the EU and the US will come together to defend the Western-dominated world; that has always been China's calculus for what it must overcome. The recent fractures should be taken advantage of while they last but absolutely should give no false impression that the EU is friendly or neutral in a fight to topple Western dominance. Your failure to see the big picture causes you to scurry and dart around like a mouse when the real players show reserve and purpose like lions.
Anyway, IMO Xi is now U-turning not even for the EU but for ASEAN. And he needs to finally reform China's utterly idiotic media system. Nobody pays attention to them with how bad they are
China's media has created a Chinese population that is loyal to its government and national cause rather than tearing at each other like wild animals in the West. Your opinion is, as always, narrow and uninformed and your idiotic analyses and overreactions are the ones no one pays attention to, except to ridicule.
 
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